Re: [address-policy-wg] 200 customer requirements for IPv6

[Jeroen Massar <]

Marc van Selm wrote:
<SNIPS throughout the doc>
> I am investigating how NATO should acquire IPv6 address space. NATO will use 
> multiple transmission providers, NATO owned transmission and national 
> networks. Also transmission contracts will have to be opened for bidding 
> every few years. That makes requesting IP space from an ISP a non starter. So 
> we explore the LIR route. Note that NATO has a service provider under its 
> umbrella that provides service towards the other NATO organisations.

This is already good enough. Because the "ISP" is providing connectivity
 to the other NATO organisations. Done.

> At this time it is reasonably hard to specify the 200 /48 that will be given 
> out for the "IPv6 Initial Allocation Request".

The 200 is a *PLAN*. Also, if you have 200 employees and every one is
going to connect to your network, then they need 200 /48's. As they are
endsites connecting using a VPN tool and these endsites might just have
more than 1 device in their network which need to access your site over
the VPN.

> Having reached about 130 or so 
> on my list (not finished yet) I can't help wondering why RIPE-NCC should care 
> about a list of sites that they only a vague clue of what they are and have 
> no means of verification if the list is correct.

They don't care.

 Having said that, I get the
> feeling that the 200 rule only ads admin overhead and has limited actual 
> power. Now NATO could include a summarised version in the Initial Allocation 
> and do something like:
> 
> Subnet: /48	1 year 	5 regional sites (/48 per site = 5x /48)
> Subnet: /48	1 year	20 subordinate sites to the 5 regional sites (/48 per site 
> = 5x 20x /48 = 100 /48)
> Subnet: /48	2 year	40 deployed elements (/48 per site = 40x /48)
> Subnet: /48	2 year	70 Crisis Response Operation locations (/48 per location = 
> 70 x /48)
> Total: 215x /48

That is PERFECT.

> I can't help feeling this rule is written for ISPs but will be counter 
> productive for NATO and organisations with a very large privately operated 
> enterprice network.

The 200 rule is there to make sure that there will be no entity that is
going to request a /32, while they will never even use even a single /48
of hosts.

So: Become LIR, pay the fees, fill in the forms and request that /32.

Greets,
 Jeroen

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