RE: [address-policy-wg] Re: [ncc-services-wg] Request Forms: updated and available on LIR Portal

["Bornhorst, Ludger" <]

Hi Christian,

> The question is how complex an evaluation must be? The facts needed to
> evaluate a normal IP requests are simply the number of nodes needing a
> public IP address. In case one or more nodes needs more than 1 IP address
> then documentation is needed to explain why to exceed the normal rules, also
> in case the expected growth pr. year exceeds 100%.

Yes, but I don't have any problem to ask endusers about their (planned)
hardware and to document their needs in the way we've done it since
several years now, like "We have 20 PC's, 5 routers, 200 dial-in-ports 
and so on..." This general information will (in most cases) be sufficient 
to evaluate IP requests.


> It would of course be easier to falsify the number of nodes than to falsify
> the documentation, but in case an end user intends to falsify information in
> order to get more IP addresses than justifyable, then I don't see any easy
> way to prevent this.

Right, but there are still enduser who don't know about classless addressing.
That means they are asking for "Class-C" nets just because they think its hip.
So I think it's responsibility of the LIR's to tell this endusers about CIDR
and its outcomes.

And, yes I agree: If an enduser wants to cheat at you, I can't see a way to
prevent this. 


> I would find it reasonable if larger requests still required some form of
> documentation, for example /24 and above. But it would of course still be
> very important for all LIRs to stress that the information received from the
> enduser must be correct.

ACK! This way it would be possible to serve the main part of the customers
at a simple level and only ask reasonable questions (hardware documentation) 
if the request exceeds a certain level. 

I would like to stress that the /24 border should be the maximum limit of
"freedom" given here. Maybe it's better to decrease this "HW-documentation-border"
down to /25 or /26 ? What do you think?

mit freundlichen Gruessen/with best regards

Ludger Bornhorst
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