Re: [address-policy-wg] Draft agenda Address Policy Working GroupRIPE 46

[Hans Petter Holen <]

> what is your intention with regards to item J on the agenda?
>
> Leo's message gave inconclusive and incomplete information about the PI
> task force work, merely citing a few bullet points with expressions
> such as "there was some support for this".

If that is the case: the outcome of the agenda item should be one of two:

a) Keep existing policy
b) Find a way to conclude with a proposal that can gain consensus in the
future.

> I have not seen any description of the background, relevant data
> available (types of PI requests, for instance) and general problem
> categorisation.

Maybe we can ask leo to produce some data here ?

> I haven't seen any description of the options discussed at the TF and
> what were the arguments for some having "some support" and others "less
> support".
>
> I reckon background for this would help immensely in carrying out a
> sensible discussion. I guess that according to your mail regarding the
> policy process at RIPE, the item is not meant to rubber stamp any
> policy change at this time but if progress is to be expected on a
> timely manner, a concrete problem statement with options analysis would
> go a long way in avoiding discussion loops.

Very good point indeed.

>
> Also, how does the outcome of item J affect item K?

Interesting question. I have not read all of the draft to answer that
question yet.

Anyone else ?

Regards,

-hph
>
> regards,
> Joao Damas
>
>
> On Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 12:26 AM, Hans Petter Holen wrote:
>
> > RIPE 46 Address Policy WG Draft Agenda (v4)
> >
> > A. Administrative Matters
> >    - scribe
> >    - list of participants
> >    - agenda
> >    - RIPE 45 lir-wg minutes
> > 	http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/lir/r45-minutes.html
> >    - Actions
> >
> > B. Report from RIPE NCC Registration Services (Leo Vegoda)
> >
> > C. Internet Resource Status Report (Leo Vegoda)
> >
> > D. ICANN ASO Address Council Report
> >
> > E. Presentation of ASO Address Council Candidates
> > 	http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/about/regional/aso2003/index.html
> > 	Election in plenary
> >
> > F. Address Policy WG Charter
> >
> > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail-archives/address-policy-wg/2003/
> > msg00075.html
> >
> > G. RIPE-152 Charging by local registries
> > 	http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/chargingbylirs.html
> >
> > H. Policy Development Process
> >
> > I. RIR-IANA relationship and procedures (Axel Pawlik)
> >
> > J. PI Address Policy & Initial IPv4 allocation size
> >
> > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail-archives/address-policy-wg/2003/
> > msg00030.html
> > K  Final revised IPv4 policy
> >
> > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail-archives/address-policy-wg/2003/
> > msg00010.html
> >
> > X. AOB
> >
> > Y. Summary of actions arising from this meeting
> >
> > Z. Open Microphone
> >
> >
> >
>