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On Monday, May 18, 1998 3:22 AM, Michael Dillon[SMTP:michael at memra.com] wrote:
@On Mon, 18 May 1998, Jim Fleming wrote:
@
@> @Jim is what one science fiction story termed an "agent provocateur" (where,
@> @when the world is totally wired and everyone is on email, along comes a
@> @person who talks the talk and walks the walk but is a bit demented and only
@> @a few people can see thru his techno-mumbo-jumbo as being garbage).  His
@> @purpose in life is to drum up controversy and to have people run off in
@> @directions that are unproductive.  
@
@It is my studied opinion that Jim Fleming is not demented, that he has a
@specific goal in his provocateur activities and that he is likely being
@paid to do this by the U.S. telco industry. His goal is to discredit the
@Internet governance infrastructure in order to manipulate the U.S. 
@government into creating an FCC-like regulatory infrastructure for the
@Internet. The U.S. telcos (and indeed national PTTs the world over) like
@this sort of structure because they know that, with it they can control
@the Internet by the same sorts of political manoeuverings they have
@perfected over the past several generations. 
@
@So Hank is basically right that the best response is to take some time to
@do more talking to government. However don't be misled by Jim's email spew
@into thinking that a few emails to the right places will suffice. It is
@far more effective to take the time to write a cogent discussion of the
@issues and then snail-mail the document to the government agency. Or to
@visit them in person for a face-to-face discussion.
@
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@Michael Dillon                 -               Internet & ISP Consulting
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@
@


Michael,

Your participation in the development of the IAHC/CORE plan
and Hank Nussbacher's role as a member of the IAHC committee
are well known. Also, your involvement with the creation of ARIN
and your role on the ARIN Advisory Council are well known.
Also, your various attempts to commute from Canada and to work
in the United States are well known. Your constant focus on the
U.S. ISP marketplace is well known. Why don't you become a
U.S. citizen ? Then you could have a larger voice with the U.S.
Government. If that is not your pleasure, then I suggest that you
lobby the Canadian government to carry your message to the
U.S. Government.

As for Mr. Nussbacher. He seems concerned that his voice is
not being heard in Israel. Despite this, he clearly does not want
other voices to be heard. Here is one small example. I selected
this example because Mr. Nussbacher was recently trying to
convince Annie Renard the .FR (France) TLD administrator not
to listen to me.

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From: hank at interall.co.il (Hank Nussbacher)
Subject: Re: CFV (Call for Votes) : Creation of the israel.francophones newsgroup
Date: 18 Dec 1997 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <67bius$prk$1 at news.ibm.net.il>
References: <3498F1B2.76DC at hotmail.com> <34993150.DF81644B at orbotech.co.il>
Organization: Hank Nussbacher, consulting
Newsgroups: israel.news.admin


I vote against.  Why not use IRC to talk frenchto each other?  Why does there 
have to be a newsgroup to talk in French?

-Hank

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In all of these cases, it seems clear that we have people like
yourself and Mr. Nussbacher who are not working via their
governments to make sure your voices are heard. Instead,
you seem to think that you can enter the U.S. via electronic
networks to dominate this marketplace and the U.S. Government.

I have a feeling that the U.S. Government is on the look-out
for this type of activity and will listen to their taxpayers before
you or Mr. Nussbacher. If they do not, they then have to deal
with U.S. taxpayers at the next election or in person.

As a U.S. citizen and U.S. taxpayer my recommendation is
for the U.S. Government to start dealing with other governments.
This will allow them to have the Canadian government present
a more balanced view from your country. Likewise, the same
can be said for Israel.

I encourage you to follow your own advice and contact YOUR
government officials. Let the U.S. taxpayers and government
officials work together on our own plan. We will let you know
how it comes out.


-
Jim Fleming
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