RIPE 63: Daily Meeting Report - Thursday

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Dear colleagues,

A short summary of Thursday's events at RIPE 63 can be found below. The 
full Daily Meeting Report, including photos, links to presentations, 
webcasts and further information, can be found at:
http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/report/thursday/


Address Policy Working Group

The third AP WG session started on Thursday with discussion on the IPv6 
PI/PA unification proposal made by Gert Doering, AP Working Group 
co-Chair. There was an analysis of special cases, the costs and the 
"multiple blocks per LIR" scenario that would result from the 
unification. The RIPE NCC was tasked to look into possible reasons why 
LIRs would like to be able to request multiple prefixes. More feedback 
was encouraged on the mailing list.

During the Open Policy Hour, the recent RFC 6382, published by the IETF, 
was presented. Some possible interpretation issues with the ripe-525 
policy, "Autonomous System (AS) Number Assignment Policy" were 
highlighted. The attendees present reached the conclusion that a policy 
proposal should not be submitted.


DNS Working Group

The first session of the DNS Session WG had a very diverse set of 
presentations, ranging from an update by the RIPE NCC, an update on the 
DANE work in IETF, to DNS configuration management and two different 
implementations of an authoritative DNS server.

The second DNS session started with an interesting presentation about 
the excessive increased query load on the root name servers that 
occurred for a brief time this summer, followed by a presentation on 
"DNSSEC Trigger". There was also an update on the "IDN Variant Issues 
Project" and an update on the status of the DNSEASY and SSR Meetings. 
The session ended with a very engaging panel discussion, ranging from 
the technical to the political implications of blocking or rewriting DNS 
query results at the registry or ISP level and how that affects 
operators throughout the world.

EIX Working Group

The first presentation of the session was an introduction to the local 
peering scene in Austria, given by Christian Panigl, VIX. There was then 
an update on EIX activities, which included the new IPv4 policy and 
switch wishlist. Remco van Mook, Equinix, and Martin Pels, AMS-IX, 
offered to help with the document. The session continued with a 
presentation on "Monitoring Platforms for Internet Exchange Points" and 
"Jumbo Frames in AMS-IX", which prompted many in the audience to voice 
their opinions.

The second EIX WG session began with a presentation on "Extended 
Communities for Route-Servers and ASN32", followed by "How to Resolve 
Edge Redundancy for Peering". Next up was Joao Damas, ISC, who talked 
about the Open Source Routing project he was working on. There were two 
presentations on problems experienced with Proxy-ARP and discussion 
focused on why this happened. A Cisco representative said he would bring 
this feedback back to Cisco. The session ended with on open mic session 
of lightning updates.


RIPE Database Working Group

The RIPE NCC shared the latest RIPE Database developments. RIPE NCC 
staff members, Kaveh Ranjbar and Denis Walker, presented on the action 
points from the RIPE 62 Meeting, all of which have been completed.

The main discussion of the session was about the geolocation service. 
The RIPE NCC showed a prototype of the service and the WG Chair will 
present the proposed way forward on the RIPE Database mailing list. The 
RIPE NCC was also requested to investigate how internationalisation 
could be made possible and what would need to be done if it is decided 
to fully serve the data in utf-8.

As reported in the Anti-Abuse WG earlier this week, a requirement of an 
abuse contact i in the RIPE Database will start the PDP in the coming 
weeks.. This is the result of the Abuse Contact Task Force. An other 
issue raised was that objects sponsored by an LIR are not shown in the 
RIPE Database. The mailing list will be used to analyse how to move forward.

Cooperation Working Group

The RIPE Cooperation Working Group met in the final session of the day, 
and included a remote presentation from European Commission 
representative Andrea Glorioso, who emphasised the need for more 
synchronisation between the RIPE community and the Commission. Chris 
Buckridge, RIPE NCC, gave an update on the Internet Governance Forum 
2011, while Nurani Nimpuno, Netnod, spoke about the work of the United 
Nations CSTD Working Group on "Improvements to the IGF".

MAT Working Group

The session started with NIC Brazil reporting on how RIPE TTM data is 
being used in real time in Brazil. Next there was a presentation on 
Google's "Measurement Lab (M-Lab)" . After the talk, a number of people 
asked if Google was considering integrating or sponsoring RIPE Atlas. 
Wolfgang Nagele, RIPE NCC, then presented on "PCAP Analysis with 
HADOOP". The session concluded with two presentations by the RIPE NCC, 
one of which updated the audience on the recent developments in the RIPE 
NCC's measurements activities. The other announced the introduction of 
user defined measurements for RIPE Atlas. David Freedman, Claranet, then 
asked the audience how the reachability of a prefix could be measured so 
that people can build filters properly and proposed an experiment. 
Interest was expressed and he said he would formulate a more solid proposal.

IPv6 Privacy BoF

An IPv6 Privacy BoF was held in the Park Congress I room following the 
last working group sessions of the day. The German NGO Arbeitskreis 
Vorratsdatenspeicherung’s (Working Group on Data Retention) position on 
how user privacy should be supported by ISPs and software/hardware 
vendors was discussed as well as how privacy concerns will influence 
ISPs’ IPv6 assignment practices.