From alex at mipt.ru Fri Apr 6 10:08:04 2007 From: alex at mipt.ru (Alex Y Fadeyev) Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 12:08:04 +0400 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status Message-ID: <4615FFE4.7020204@mipt.ru> ?????? ????. ? ???? ???? ????, ?????????? - ??? ????????? ???????? (????) ?? ????????????? ??????????? LIR'??? RIPE NCC ?????????? ?? ????. ??? ????, ?????? ????????? ?????? LIR'? ????????? ???????. ??????????, ?????? RIPE NCC ????? ????????? ?????????? ??????? start-up fee ? ????????? ????????. ??? ???? ???????? ????????????? ???????????? ?? ?????, ???????? ?? ?????. P.S. ????? ????????? - ???? ???? LIR, ?? ?? ????????? ????????????, ?????? ?????? ?? ?????? PA ????? ??????, ?????????????? ????? PI ?????? ?? ??? ??? ??????? - ????? PA ????, ??????? ???? ???? ??????? ?????? ????. ?????? ??????? ??? ??????? - ??????? ????? - ????? ???? ???? ?????? LIR ? ??????? ???? PA ????. -- Sincerely Yours, Alex Y. Fadeyev Chief Engineer, Head of NOC, CCNP, PhD MIPT-telecom http://telecom.mipt.ru Tel.: +7 495 576-4381 Fax.: +7 495 576-4563 e-mail: alex at mipt.ru LinkedIN From cron at camelottc.com Fri Apr 6 11:11:34 2007 From: cron at camelottc.com (Igor Chentsov) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 13:11:34 +0400 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status In-Reply-To: <4615FFE4.7020204@mipt.ru> References: <4615FFE4.7020204@mipt.ru> Message-ID: <398498633.20070406131134@camelottc.com> ????????????, Alex. ?? ?????? 6 ?????? 2007 ?., 12:08:04: > ?????? ????. > ? ???? ???? ????, ?????????? - ??? ????????? ???????? (????) ?? ????????????? ??????????? LIR'??? > RIPE NCC ?????????? ?? ????. > ??? ????, ?????? ????????? ?????? LIR'? ????????? ???????. ??????????, ?????? RIPE NCC ????? > ????????? ?????????? ??????? start-up fee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hy is PI space required rather than PA space? ????????? ? ????????? ???? ????????????? ? ?????????? ???? (????, ???? ????? ?? ???????????? ?????????) ??? ?????? ??????? ?? ?????????? ? PI, ? ?????? ??????? ?????????????? ?????????? ???? ???-?? ?? ???????? ???????. -- ? ?????????, Igor mailto:cron at camelottc.com From poty at iiat.ru Fri Apr 6 14:04:17 2007 From: poty at iiat.ru (poty at iiat.ru) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:04:17 +0400 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status Message-ID: ????????????! ??????? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ???????? ???? ??? ????? ??????????? ???????? ?????? ?? ???, ??? ????? "????" ???? ???????. ????? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ? ???????? ? ????????????? ?????? RIPE. ? ?????????, Vladislav Potapov Technical Director IIAT, Ltd. e-mail: poty at iiat.ru tel: +7 (495) 251-01-64 fax: +7 (495) 250-81-88 > -----Original Message----- > From: regional-russia-admin at ripe.net > [mailto:regional-russia-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Alex Y Fadeyev > Sent: 6 ?????? 2007 ?. 12:08 > To: regional-russia at ripe.net > Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status > > > ?????? ????. > ? ???? ???? ????, ?????????? - ??? ????????? ???????? (????) > ?? ????????????? ??????????? LIR'??? RIPE NCC ?????????? ?? > ????. ??? ????, ?????? ????????? ?????? LIR'? ????????? > ???????. ??????????, ?????? RIPE NCC ????? ????????? > ?????????? ??????? start-up fee ? ????????? ????????. ??? > ???? ???????? ????????????? ???????????? ?? ?????, ???????? > ?? ?????. P.S. ????? ????????? - ???? ???? LIR, ?? ?? > ????????? ????????????, ?????? ?????? ?? ?????? PA ????? > ??????, ?????????????? ????? PI ?????? ?? ??? ??? ??????? - > ????? PA ????, ??????? ???? ???? ??????? ?????? ????. ?????? > ??????? ??? ??????? - ??????? ????? - ????? ???? ???? ?????? > LIR ? ??????? ???? PA ????. > > -- > Sincerely Yours, > Alex Y. Fadeyev > Chief Engineer, Head of NOC, CCNP, PhD > MIPT-telecom http://telecom.mipt.ru > Tel.: +7 495 576-4381 > Fax.: +7 495 576-4563 > e-mail: alex at mipt.ru > LinkedIN > > From president at ukraine.su Sun Apr 8 10:36:48 2007 From: president at ukraine.su (Max Tulyev) Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 11:36:48 +0300 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4618A9A0.7090502@ukraine.su> ?????? ????! ??? ????????? PI ????? ? ??????????? AS ?????????? ???? ???????? ????????? ?????? ? ???????? ????????? ? RIPE. ???????????, ???????! ????????? ???? ????????? ? ???? ?? ????? ????? ???????? - ??????? ??? (?????? ???? ??????? ? ?????????????), ??????? ?????????? ???? ???? (???????? ????? /30) - ??? ???????? ?????? ?????? PI, ? ?? LIR. ????? ????, ?????? ?? ???? (? ??????????? ??????? ;) ), ????? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ? ???????? ??????? ?? ?????? ??????????, ? ??? ??? ??????? ??? ????????? ??????????? AS. poty at iiat.ru wrote: > ????????????! > > ??????? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ???????? ???? ??? ????? ??????????? ???????? ?????? ?? ???, ??? ????? "????" ???? ???????. ????? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ? ???????? ? ????????????? ?????? RIPE. > > ? ?????????, > Vladislav Potapov > Technical Director > IIAT, Ltd. > e-mail: poty at iiat.ru > tel: +7 (495) 251-01-64 > fax: +7 (495) 250-81-88 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: regional-russia-admin at ripe.net >> [mailto:regional-russia-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Alex Y Fadeyev >> Sent: 6 ?????? 2007 ?. 12:08 >> To: regional-russia at ripe.net >> Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status >> >> >> ?????? ????. >> ? ???? ???? ????, ?????????? - ??? ????????? ???????? (????) >> ?? ????????????? ??????????? LIR'??? RIPE NCC ?????????? ?? >> ????. ??? ????, ?????? ????????? ?????? LIR'? ????????? >> ???????. ??????????, ?????? RIPE NCC ????? ????????? >> ?????????? ??????? start-up fee ? ????????? ????????. ??? >> ???? ???????? ????????????? ???????????? ?? ?????, ???????? >> ?? ?????. P.S. ????? ????????? - ???? ???? LIR, ?? ?? >> ????????? ????????????, ?????? ?????? ?? ?????? PA ????? >> ??????, ?????????????? ????? PI ?????? ?? ??? ??? ??????? - >> ????? PA ????, ??????? ???? ???? ??????? ?????? ????. ?????? >> ??????? ??? ??????? - ??????? ????? - ????? ???? ???? ?????? >> LIR ? ??????? ???? PA ????. >> >> -- >> Sincerely Yours, >> Alex Y. Fadeyev >> Chief Engineer, Head of NOC, CCNP, PhD >> MIPT-telecom http://telecom.mipt.ru >> Tel.: +7 495 576-4381 >> Fax.: +7 495 576-4563 >> e-mail: alex at mipt.ru >> LinkedIN >> >> > -- WBR, Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) From president at ukraine.su Tue Apr 10 16:17:08 2007 From: president at ukraine.su (Max Tulyev) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:17:08 +0300 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status In-Reply-To: <398498633.20070406131134@camelottc.com> References: <4615FFE4.7020204@mipt.ru> <398498633.20070406131134@camelottc.com> Message-ID: <461B9C64.3060608@ukraine.su> ?????? ????! ????? ????? ??? ??????? /22 ? ?????? RIPE ??????????, ? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ???-???? ????? ?????? ? ??????? Igor Chentsov wrote: > ????????????, Alex. > > ?? ?????? 6 ?????? 2007 ?., 12:08:04: > >> ?????? ????. >> ? ???? ???? ????, ?????????? - ??? ????????? ???????? (????) ?? ????????????? ??????????? LIR'??? >> RIPE NCC ?????????? ?? ????. >> ??? ????, ?????? ????????? ?????? LIR'? ????????? ???????. ??????????, ?????? RIPE NCC ????? >> ????????? ?????????? ??????? start-up fee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hy is PI space required rather than PA space? > ????????? ? ????????? ???? ????????????? ? ?????????? ???? (????, ???? > ????? ?? ???????????? ?????????) ??? ?????? ??????? ?? ?????????? ? > PI, ? ?????? ??????? ?????????????? ?????????? ???? ???-?? ?? ???????? > ???????. > > > -- WBR, Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) From abramov at demos.net Tue Apr 10 16:29:33 2007 From: abramov at demos.net (Gennady Abramov) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:29:33 +0400 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status In-Reply-To: <461B9C64.3060608@ukraine.su> References: <4615FFE4.7020204@mipt.ru> <398498633.20070406131134@camelottc.com> <461B9C64.3060608@ukraine.su> Message-ID: <20070410142933.GA21511@demos.net> Hello, ? ???? ????????? ????? ? ??????, ??? "LIR'?? ??????????? ?? ????, ?????? ??? ? ?? ??????-????????? ? ?? ???? ??????????? ???????????????? ?????????, ????? ????????? ???????? ??????"? ? ???? ??? ????? ???????????? /22 ?????? ????? ? ???????? ?????? ???????. On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 05:17:08PM +0300, Max Tulyev wrote: > ?????? ????! > > ????? ????? ??? ??????? /22 ? ?????? RIPE ??????????, ? ?? ?????? ?? ?? > ???-???? ????? ?????? ? ??????? > > Igor Chentsov wrote: > > ????????????, Alex. > > > > ?? ?????? 6 ?????? 2007 ?., 12:08:04: > > > >> ?????? ????. > >> ? ???? ???? ????, ?????????? - ??? ????????? ???????? (????) ?? ????????????? ??????????? LIR'??? > >> RIPE NCC ?????????? ?? ????. > >> ??? ????, ?????? ????????? ?????? LIR'? ????????? ???????. ??????????, ?????? RIPE NCC ????? > >> ????????? ?????????? ??????? start-up fee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hy is PI space required rather than PA space? > > ????????? ? ????????? ???? ????????????? ? ?????????? ???? (????, ???? > > ????? ?? ???????????? ?????????) ??? ?????? ??????? ?? ?????????? ? > > PI, ? ?????? ??????? ?????????????? ?????????? ???? ???-?? ?? ???????? > > ???????. > > > > > > > > > -- > WBR, > Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) -- Gennady Abramov, CCNA, CCNP; Demos-Internet NOC abramov at demos.net , AGV77-RIPE From poty at iiat.ru Wed Apr 11 10:42:52 2007 From: poty at iiat.ru (poty at iiat.ru) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:42:52 +0400 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status Message-ID: ????????????! ??????-?? ???????? ???????? RIPE, ?? ? ???? ?????? RIR ???????? ??????? End-User - LIR - RIR... ?????? ? ??????. ???? ?????? ???????? ?????? - ??????????? ? ?????????? LIR (?????????? ? ????? ?????? ???????, ? ?? ?????? ??????????????). ?????? ???? ????????? ?????? ??????? - ??????????? LIR. ? ?????????, Vladislav Potapov Technical Director IIAT, Ltd. e-mail: poty at iiat.ru tel: +7 (495) 251-01-64 fax: +7 (495) 250-81-88 > -----Original Message----- > From: regional-russia-admin at ripe.net > [mailto:regional-russia-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev > Sent: 10 ?????? 2007 ?. 18:17 > To: regional-russia at ripe.net > Subject: Re: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status > > > ?????? ????! > > ????? ????? ??? ??????? /22 ? ?????? RIPE ??????????, ? ?? > ?????? ?? ?? ???-???? ????? ?????? ? ??????? > > Igor Chentsov wrote: > > ????????????, Alex. > > > > ?? ?????? 6 ?????? 2007 ?., 12:08:04: > > > >> ?????? ????. > >> ? ???? ???? ????, ?????????? - ??? ????????? ???????? (????) ?? > >> ????????????? ??????????? LIR'??? RIPE NCC ?????????? ?? ????. ??? > >> ????, ?????? ????????? ?????? LIR'? ????????? ???????. ??????????, > >> ?????? RIPE NCC ????? ????????? ?????????? ??????? start-up fee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hy is PI space > required rather > > than PA space? ????????? ? ????????? ???? ????????????? ? > ?????????? > > ???? (????, ???? ????? ?? ???????????? ?????????) ??? > ?????? ??????? > > ?? ?????????? ? PI, ? ?????? ??????? ?????????????? ?????????? ???? > > ???-?? ?? ???????? ???????. > > > > > > > > > -- > WBR, > Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) > > From president at ukraine.su Thu Apr 12 20:21:24 2007 From: president at ukraine.su (Max Tulyev) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:21:24 +0300 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <461E78A4.7050407@ukraine.su> ?????? ????! ????????? PI ????? ??? ?? ???? ????????? ?????? ??????? ;) poty at iiat.ru wrote: > ????????????! > > ??????-?? ???????? ???????? RIPE, ?? ? ???? ?????? RIR ???????? ??????? End-User - LIR - RIR... > ?????? ? ??????. ???? ?????? ???????? ?????? - ??????????? ? ?????????? LIR (?????????? ? ????? ?????? ???????, ? ?? ?????? ??????????????). ?????? ???? ????????? ?????? ??????? - ??????????? LIR. > > ? ?????????, > Vladislav Potapov > Technical Director > IIAT, Ltd. > e-mail: poty at iiat.ru > tel: +7 (495) 251-01-64 > fax: +7 (495) 250-81-88 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: regional-russia-admin at ripe.net >> [mailto:regional-russia-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev >> Sent: 10 ?????? 2007 ?. 18:17 >> To: regional-russia at ripe.net >> Subject: Re: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status >> >> >> ?????? ????! >> >> ????? ????? ??? ??????? /22 ? ?????? RIPE ??????????, ? ?? >> ?????? ?? ?? ???-???? ????? ?????? ? ??????? >> >> Igor Chentsov wrote: >>> ????????????, Alex. >>> >>> ?? ?????? 6 ?????? 2007 ?., 12:08:04: >>> >>>> ?????? ????. >>>> ? ???? ???? ????, ?????????? - ??? ????????? ???????? (????) ?? >>>> ????????????? ??????????? LIR'??? RIPE NCC ?????????? ?? ????. ??? >>>> ????, ?????? ????????? ?????? LIR'? ????????? ???????. ??????????, >>>> ?????? RIPE NCC ????? ????????? ?????????? ??????? start-up fee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hy is PI space >> required rather >>> than PA space? ????????? ? ????????? ???? ????????????? ? >> ?????????? >>> ???? (????, ???? ????? ?? ???????????? ?????????) ??? >> ?????? ??????? >>> ?? ?????????? ? PI, ? ?????? ??????? ?????????????? ?????????? ???? >>> ???-?? ?? ???????? ???????. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> WBR, >> Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) >> >> > -- WBR, Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) From poty at iiat.ru Thu Apr 12 21:18:27 2007 From: poty at iiat.ru (poty at iiat.ru) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:18:27 +0400 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status Message-ID: ????????????! ?? ??????, ???????? ????? ?? ???????, ??????? ????? "????????" ????? ?????????. ??-??????, ????? ?? ??? ??????? ????? ????????? ??????? ?? ??????? maintainer. ?-???????, ? ???????????? ??????? ????? ????????. ? ?????????, Vladislav Potapov Technical Director IIAT, Ltd. Tel. +7 (495) 251 0164 Fax. +7 (495) 250 8188 -----Original Message----- From: regional-russia-admin at ripe.net [mailto:regional-russia-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:21 PM To: regional-russia at ripe.net Subject: Re: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status ?????? ????! ????????? PI ????? ??? ?? ???? ????????? ?????? ??????? ;) poty at iiat.ru wrote: > ????????????! > > ??????-?? ???????? ???????? RIPE, ?? ? ???? ?????? RIR ???????? > ??????? End-User - LIR - RIR... ?????? ? ??????. ???? ?????? ???????? > ?????? - ??????????? ? ?????????? LIR (?????????? ? ????? ?????? > ???????, ? ?? ?????? ??????????????). ?????? ???? ????????? ?????? > ??????? - ??????????? LIR. > > ? ?????????, > Vladislav Potapov > Technical Director > IIAT, Ltd. > e-mail: poty at iiat.ru > tel: +7 (495) 251-01-64 > fax: +7 (495) 250-81-88 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: regional-russia-admin at ripe.net >> [mailto:regional-russia-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev >> Sent: 10 ?????? 2007 ?. 18:17 >> To: regional-russia at ripe.net >> Subject: Re: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status >> >> >> ?????? ????! >> >> ????? ????? ??? ??????? /22 ? ?????? RIPE ??????????, ? ?? >> ?????? ?? ?? ???-???? ????? ?????? ? ??????? >> >> Igor Chentsov wrote: >>> ????????????, Alex. >>> >>> ?? ?????? 6 ?????? 2007 ?., 12:08:04: >>> >>>> ?????? ????. >>>> ? ???? ???? ????, ?????????? - ??? ????????? ???????? (????) ?? >>>> ????????????? ??????????? LIR'??? RIPE NCC ?????????? ?? ????. ??? >>>> ????, ?????? ????????? ?????? LIR'? ????????? ???????. ??????????, >>>> ?????? RIPE NCC ????? ????????? ?????????? ??????? start-up fee ? >>>> ????????? ????????. ??? ???? ???????? ????????????? >> ???????????? ?? >>>> ?????, ???????? ?? ?????. P.S. ????? ????????? - ???? ???? >> LIR, ?? ?? >>>> ????????? ????????????, ?????? ?????? ?? ?????? PA ????? ??????, >>>> ?????????????? ????? PI ?????? ?? ??? ??? ??????? - ????? PA ????, >>>> ??????? ???? ???? ??????? ?????? ????. ?????? ??????? ??? >> ??????? - >>>> ??????? ????? - ????? ???? ???? ?????? LIR ? ??????? ???? PA ????. >>> ??-?? ? ?? ???????, ??? ?????? ??? ???? ?????????? >> ?????????? ?????? >>> ?? ????????? ???????? ?? ?????? ???? ?????? ?? PI ????? >> ???? ?? ?? ??? >>> ??? ????????? ??? ?? ?????? ? ?????? Why is PI space >> required rather >>> than PA space? ????????? ? ????????? ???? ????????????? ? >> ?????????? >>> ???? (????, ???? ????? ?? ???????????? ?????????) ??? >> ?????? ??????? >>> ?? ?????????? ? PI, ? ?????? ??????? ?????????????? ?????????? ???? >>> ???-?? ?? ???????? ???????. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> WBR, >> Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) >> >> > -- WBR, Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) From president at ukraine.su Thu Apr 12 21:31:37 2007 From: president at ukraine.su (Max Tulyev) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:31:37 +0300 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <461E8919.5060909@ukraine.su> ?????? ????! "???????" ? ?????? ????????? ??????? ??????? ? ???? "?????????", ?? ??????? ?? ?????? ?????????????. ??? ?? ?????? maintainer'? ????? ???????????? 8-() ????????? ??????, RIPE ??? ?? ??, ????? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?????? ?? ??????????? ?? ????????? ?????????? ?????????? ???????? ?? PI (?????? ???????, ??? ?????????) ? ?????? ??? ????????? ??????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ??????? ????????? ? ???? ????. ?? ???????? ?????? maintainer'? ????? ????? ??????????? ?????? ?? ???????????. ? ???? ???????????? ???????? LIR ????????? ? ??????????? PI/AS ????????????? ?? ????? ???????????. ? ?????????? LIR ?? ????? ??????? ???????????????? ????? ? ??????????? ????????. poty at iiat.ru wrote: > ????????????! > > ?? ??????, ???????? ????? ?? ???????, ??????? ????? "????????" ????? ?????????. > ??-??????, ????? ?? ??? ??????? ????? ????????? ??????? ?? ??????? maintainer. > ?-???????, ? ???????????? ??????? ????? ????????. > > ? ?????????, > Vladislav Potapov > Technical Director > IIAT, Ltd. > Tel. +7 (495) 251 0164 > Fax. +7 (495) 250 8188 > > -----Original Message----- > From: regional-russia-admin at ripe.net [mailto:regional-russia-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:21 PM > To: regional-russia at ripe.net > Subject: Re: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status > > > ?????? ????! > > ????????? PI ????? ??? ?? ???? ????????? ?????? ??????? ;) > > poty at iiat.ru wrote: >> ????????????! >> >> ??????-?? ???????? ???????? RIPE, ?? ? ???? ?????? RIR ???????? >> ??????? End-User - LIR - RIR... ?????? ? ??????. ???? ?????? ???????? >> ?????? - ??????????? ? ?????????? LIR (?????????? ? ????? ?????? >> ???????, ? ?? ?????? ??????????????). ?????? ???? ????????? ?????? >> ??????? - ??????????? LIR. >> >> ? ?????????, >> Vladislav Potapov >> Technical Director >> IIAT, Ltd. >> e-mail: poty at iiat.ru >> tel: +7 (495) 251-01-64 >> fax: +7 (495) 250-81-88 >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: regional-russia-admin at ripe.net >>> [mailto:regional-russia-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev >>> Sent: 10 ?????? 2007 ?. 18:17 >>> To: regional-russia at ripe.net >>> Subject: Re: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status >>> >>> >>> ?????? ????! >>> >>> ????? ????? ??? ??????? /22 ? ?????? RIPE ??????????, ? ?? >>> ?????? ?? ?? ???-???? ????? ?????? ? ??????? >>> >>> Igor Chentsov wrote: >>>> ????????????, Alex. >>>> >>>> ?? ?????? 6 ?????? 2007 ?., 12:08:04: >>>> >>>>> ?????? ????. >>>>> ? ???? ???? ????, ?????????? - ??? ????????? ???????? (????) ?? >>>>> ????????????? ??????????? LIR'??? RIPE NCC ?????????? ?? ????. ??? >>>>> ????, ?????? ????????? ?????? LIR'? ????????? ???????. ??????????, >>>>> ?????? RIPE NCC ????? ????????? ?????????? ??????? start-up fee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hy is PI space >>> required rather >>>> than PA space? ????????? ? ????????? ???? ????????????? ? >>> ?????????? >>>> ???? (????, ???? ????? ?? ???????????? ?????????) ??? >>> ?????? ??????? >>>> ?? ?????????? ? PI, ? ?????? ??????? ?????????????? ?????????? ???? >>>> ???-?? ?? ???????? ???????. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> WBR, >>> Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) >>> >>> > > -- WBR, Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) From kolia at elcom.ru Fri Apr 13 07:42:53 2007 From: kolia at elcom.ru (Nikolay Morev) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:42:53 +0400 Subject: [regional-russia] =?UTF-8?B?0LPRgNCw0YTQuNC6INC40YHQv9C+0LvRjNC30L7QstCw0L3QuNGPIEk=?= =?UTF-8?B?UC3QsNC00YDQtdGB0L7Qsg==?= Message-ID: <461F185D.1020809@elcom.ru> ?????? ????. ? ???????????? ? http://www.ripe.net/rs/ipv4/ipv4-verification.html ???? ??????? ?????? ????????????? IP-??????? ??? DSL. ?????????? ??????, ??? ??? ??? ???????????, ????? ??????????? ??????????????. -- ???????????? ?????? ??? ???????????? ????? ?????????????? ??????????, (4922) 35-40-39 http://elcom.ru From dmitry at volia.net Fri Apr 13 08:43:44 2007 From: dmitry at volia.net (Dmitry Kiselev) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:43:44 +0300 Subject: [regional-russia] =?koi8-r?B?x9LBxsnL?= =?koi8-r?B?IMnT0M/M2NrP18HOydEgSVAtwcTSxdPP1w==?= In-Reply-To: <461F185D.1020809@elcom.ru> References: <461F185D.1020809@elcom.ru> Message-ID: <20070413064344.GS59980@f17.dmitry.net> ?????? ????! On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 09:42:53AM +0400, Nikolay Morev wrote: > ? ???????????? ? http://www.ripe.net/rs/ipv4/ipv4-verification.html ???? > ??????? ?????? ????????????? IP-??????? ??? DSL. > > ?????????? ??????, ??? ??? ??? ???????????, ????? ??????????? > ??????????????. ? ??? ??? ????????? ??????????? ?????? ?????????? ?????? ?? dhcpd.leases ? ???????????? ? RRD, ???? ?????????? WEB ????????? ? ????? ?????. ? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? ???????? ??? ??????? ????????? ?? RIPE NCC. -- Dmitry Kiselev From maksim at tgholding.com Fri Apr 13 09:05:30 2007 From: maksim at tgholding.com (Maksim Monasipov) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:05:30 +0400 Subject: [regional-russia] =?UTF-8?B?0LPRgNCw0YTQuNC6INC40YHQv9C+0LvRjA==?= =?UTF-8?B?0LfQvtCy0LDQvdC40Y8gSVAt0LDQtNGA0LXRgdC+0LI=?= In-Reply-To: <461F185D.1020809@elcom.ru> References: <461F185D.1020809@elcom.ru> Message-ID: <461F2BBA.6030102@tgholding.com> Nikolay Morev ?????: > > ?????? ????. > > ? ???????????? ? http://www.ripe.net/rs/ipv4/ipv4-verification.html > ???? ??????? ?????? ????????????? IP-??????? ??? DSL. > > ?????????? ??????, ??? ??? ??? ???????????, ????? ??????????? > ??????????????. > > > ? ??? ?????????? ?? SNMP ?????????? ???????? ??????. From fabler at mtu.ru Fri Apr 13 09:04:38 2007 From: fabler at mtu.ru (Sergey Budnevitch) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:04:38 +0400 Subject: [regional-russia] =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[regional-russia]_=D0=B3=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=84=D0=B8?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=BA_=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F_IP-=D0=B0=D0=B4?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D1=80=D0=B5=D1=81=D0=BE=D0=B2?= In-Reply-To: <461F185D.1020809@elcom.ru> References: <461F185D.1020809@elcom.ru> Message-ID: <1F1328B2-E91C-41AC-A907-369FF924D697@mtu.ru> ?? ?????????? ???????? ?? NAS'?? + ??????????? ??????????/ ????????????? ?? ??????. ???????, ??? ?????????? ????????, ??? ?? ???????. ????? ?? ????????? ?????? ????????, ????? ??????? ?????, ????? ??? ?????? ???? ????????. On Apr 13, 2007, at 09:42 , Nikolay Morev wrote: > > ?????? ????. > > ? ???????????? ? http://www.ripe.net/rs/ipv4/ipv4- > verification.html ???? ??????? ?????? > ????????????? IP-??????? ??? DSL. > > ?????????? ??????, ??? ??? ??? > ???????????, ????? ??????????? > ??????????????. > > > > -- > ???????????? ?????? ??? ???????????? > ????? ?????????????? ??????????, (4922) > 35-40-39 > http://elcom.ru > From cron at camelottc.com Fri Apr 13 09:59:51 2007 From: cron at camelottc.com (Igor Chentsov) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:59:51 +0400 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status In-Reply-To: <461E8919.5060909@ukraine.su> References: <461E8919.5060909@ukraine.su> Message-ID: <334682941.20070413115951@camelottc.com> ????????????, Max. ?? ?????? 12 ?????? 2007 ?., 23:31:37: > ?????? ????! > "???????" ? ?????? ????????? ??????? ??????? ? ???? "?????????", ?? > ??????? ?? ?????? ?????????????. > ??? ?? ?????? maintainer'? ????? ???????????? 8-() ????????? ??????, > RIPE ??? ?? ??, ????? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?????? ?? ??????????? ?? > ????????? ?????????? ?????????? ???????? ?? PI (?????? ???????, ??? > ?????????) ? ?????? ??? ????????? ??????? ?????? ????? ??????????? > ??????? ????????? ? ???? ????. ?? ???????? ?????? maintainer'? ????? > ????? ??????????? ?????? ?? ???????????. ?? ???????? ??????????? ??? ????? ??????? ????????? LIR?? ????? ????????? ?????? ????????? ???????. ??? ???? ??? ??? ??? ??????? ?????????????? ?????????? (? ?? ???????) ????? ?? ???????? PI ???? ?? ????????? LIR? (?? ??????? regional meeting ??? ???????? ????????? ?? ???? Jochem-? ????? ?? ???????? ??? ??? ?? ????? ??? ??? ???) ? ????? ???-??, ?????? ?? "????????????" ??????? ??????????. ?????????. LIR handbook? > ? ???? ???????????? ???????? > LIR ????????? ? ??????????? PI/AS ????????????? ?? ????? ???????????. ? > ?????????? LIR ?? ????? ??????? ???????????????? ????? ? ??????????? > ????????. > poty at iiat.ru wrote: >> ????????????! >> >> ?? ??????, ???????? ????? ?? ???????, ??????? ????? "????????" ????? ?????????. >> ??-??????, ????? ?? ??? ??????? ????? ????????? ??????? ?? ??????? maintainer. >> ?-???????, ? ???????????? ??????? ????? ????????. >> >> ? ?????????, >> Vladislav Potapov >> Technical Director >> IIAT, Ltd. >> Tel. +7 (495) 251 0164 >> Fax. +7 (495) 250 8188 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: regional-russia-admin at ripe.net [mailto:regional-russia-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev >> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:21 PM >> To: regional-russia at ripe.net >> Subject: Re: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status >> >> >> ?????? ????! >> >> ????????? PI ????? ??? ?? ???? ????????? ?????? ??????? ;) >> >> poty at iiat.ru wrote: >>> ????????????! >>> >>> ??????-?? ???????? ???????? RIPE, ?? ? ???? ?????? RIR ???????? >>> ??????? End-User - LIR - RIR... ?????? ? ??????. ???? ?????? ???????? >>> ?????? - ??????????? ? ?????????? LIR (?????????? ? ????? ?????? >>> ???????, ? ?? ?????? ??????????????). ?????? ???? ????????? ?????? >>> ??????? - ??????????? LIR. >>> >>> ? ?????????, >>> Vladislav Potapov >>> Technical Director >>> IIAT, Ltd. >>> e-mail: poty at iiat.ru >>> tel: +7 (495) 251-01-64 >>> fax: +7 (495) 250-81-88 >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: regional-russia-admin at ripe.net >>>> [mailto:regional-russia-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Max Tulyev >>>> Sent: 10 ?????? 2007 ?. 18:17 >>>> To: regional-russia at ripe.net >>>> Subject: Re: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status >>>> >>>> >>>> ?????? ????! >>>> >>>> ????? ????? ??? ??????? /22 ? ?????? RIPE ??????????, ? ?? >>>> ?????? ?? ?? ???-???? ????? ?????? ? ??????? >>>> >>>> Igor Chentsov wrote: >>>>> ????????????, Alex. >>>>> >>>>> ?? ?????? 6 ?????? 2007 ?., 12:08:04: >>>>> >>>>>> ?????? ????. >>>>>> ? ???? ???? ????, ?????????? - ??? ????????? ???????? (????) ?? >>>>>> ????????????? ??????????? LIR'??? RIPE NCC ?????????? ?? ????. ??? >>>>>> ????, ?????? ????????? ?????? LIR'? ????????? ???????. ??????????, >>>>>> ?????? RIPE NCC ????? ????????? ?????????? ??????? start-up fee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hy is PI space >>>> required rather >>>>> than PA space? ????????? ? ????????? ???? ????????????? ? >>>> ?????????? >>>>> ???? (????, ???? ????? ?? ???????????? ?????????) ??? >>>> ?????? ??????? >>>>> ?? ?????????? ? PI, ? ?????? ??????? ?????????????? ?????????? ???? >>>>> ???-?? ?? ???????? ???????. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> WBR, >>>> Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) >>>> >>>> >> >> -- ? ?????????, Igor mailto:cron at camelottc.com From abramov at demos.net Fri Apr 13 10:02:53 2007 From: abramov at demos.net (Gennady Abramov) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:02:53 +0400 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status In-Reply-To: <4618A9A0.7090502@ukraine.su> References: <4618A9A0.7090502@ukraine.su> Message-ID: <20070413080253.GA55719@demos.net> On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 11:36:48AM +0300, Max Tulyev wrote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poty at iiat.ru wrote: > > ????????????! > > > > ??????? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ???????? ???? ??? ????? ??????????? ???????? ?????? ?? ???, ??? ????? "????" ???? ???????. ????? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ? ???????? ? ????????????? ?????? RIPE. > > > > ? ?????????, > > Vladislav Potapov > > Technical Director > > IIAT, Ltd. > > e-mail: poty at iiat.ru > > tel: +7 (495) 251-01-64 > > fax: +7 (495) 250-81-88 > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: regional-russia-admin at ripe.net > >> [mailto:regional-russia-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Alex Y Fadeyev > >> Sent: 6 ?????? 2007 ?. 12:08 > >> To: regional-russia at ripe.net > >> Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status > >> > >> > >> ?????? ????. > >> ? ???? ???? ????, ?????????? - ??? ????????? ???????? (????) > >> ?? ????????????? ??????????? LIR'??? RIPE NCC ?????????? ?? > >> ????. ??? ????, ?????? ????????? ?????? LIR'? ????????? > >> ???????. ??????????, ?????? RIPE NCC ????? ????????? > >> ?????????? ??????? start-up fee ? ????????? ????????. ??? > >> ???? ???????? ????????????? ???????????? ?? ?????, ???????? > >> ?? ?????. P.S. ????? ????????? - ???? ???? LIR, ?? ?? > >> ????????? ????????????, ?????? ?????? ?? ?????? PA ????? > >> ??????, ?????????????? ????? PI ?????? ?? ??? ??? ??????? - > >> ????? PA ????, ??????? ???? ???? ??????? ?????? ????. ?????? > >> ??????? ??? ??????? - ??????? ????? - ????? ???? ???? ?????? > >> LIR ? ??????? ???? PA ????. > >> > >> -- > >> Sincerely Yours, > >> Alex Y. Fadeyev > >> Chief Engineer, Head of NOC, CCNP, PhD > >> MIPT-telecom http://telecom.mipt.ru > >> Tel.: +7 495 576-4381 > >> Fax.: +7 495 576-4563 > >> e-mail: alex at mipt.ru > >> LinkedIN > >> > >> > > > > > -- > WBR, > Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) -- Gennady Abramov, CCNP; abramov at isoft.ru, AGV77-RIPE From flor at ripe.net Fri Apr 13 11:45:28 2007 From: flor at ripe.net (Flor Paredes) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:45:28 +0200 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR Status Message-ID: <461F5138.1030405@ripe.net> Dear Alex, In reply to your comment made about membership requirements for Local Internet Registries (LIR), please see the following information: IP address space is assigned according to the criteria proposed and accepted by the RIPE community in the "IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region" policy document. The RIPE NCC evaluates all requests for address space according to this policy. You can read this document at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ipv4-policies.html#9 This document states: "The use of PA address space should always be recommended". Following these guidelines, the RIPE NCC suggests, where appropriate and in the best interests of the requester, that becoming a member of the RIPE NCC may be an option. It is, however, not a requirement for any organisation to become a member. The RIPE NCC is a neutral, objective and not-for-profit organisation and does not explicitly promote membership. It does not aim to benefit from additional new members in any way. The fees are determined each year by the membership at the General Meeting on the basis of the RIPE NCC's expected expenses. Therefore, the interpretation that the RIPE NCC pushes organisations into becoming members and paying fees is based on a misunderstanding. If you have any questions or require more information please contact lir-help at ripe.net. Best regards, Flor de Maria Paredes Mattos Registration Services Manager RIPE NCC From poty at iiat.ru Fri Apr 13 12:57:28 2007 From: poty at iiat.ru (poty at iiat.ru) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:57:28 +0400 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status Message-ID: ????????????! ??? ??? ? ???, ??????, ???-???? ??????????? ?????, ?? ??????: > "???????" ? ?????? ????????? ??????? ??????? ? ???? > "?????????", ?? ??????? ?? ?????? ?????????????. ? ????? ?: > ??????, RIPE ??? ?? ??, ????? ??????? ?????????, ?? ?????? ?? > ??????????? ?? ????????? ?????????? ?????????? ???????? ?? PI > (?????? ???????, ??? > ?????????) ? ?????? ??? ????????? ??????? ?????? ????? > ??????????? ??????? ????????? ? ???? ????. ?? ???????? ?????? > maintainer'? ????? ????? ??????????? ?????? ?? ???????????. ????? ????????? "????????". ?? ???? ???? ?? ? ????. ??????? PI ??? ????? ?????????: ?? ?? ?????? ?????? ? ?????????????? suballocation, assignment... ?? ??????? ???? ? ??????? ????????. "The RIPE NCC no longer allocates PI address space. Consequently, many LIRs do not have PI allocations from which to make PI assignments. If an LIR has an End User that requires PI address space they are able to support them by sending these requests to the RIPE NCC on behalf of the End User. This support includes helping End Users prepare a properly documented request. The RIPE NCC will make PI assignments when justified." ???????????? ????? ??? ???, ????????, ????? - ??? ???????????? routing policy. ? ????? ??? ????????? ????????... ???????? maintainer ?? AS - ????? ??????????? ????, ?????? ??? AS ????????????? ? ??? score ?? billing, ? ??????? ?? ??? ?? ???????. ?? ???????? maintainer ?? AS ? ?????? ?? PI - ???? ?????? ????????: ???????? (??, ? ?? ?????? ??? ???????????) ? ???????????? routing policy ????? ?????? ??. > ??? ?? ?????? maintainer'? ????? ???????????? 8-() ????????? ??? ??? ?????, ? ??? PI ??? ? ?? - LIR (=????? PA). Vladislav Potapov Technical Director IIAT, Ltd. e-mail: poty at iiat.ru tel: +7 (495) 251-01-64 fax: +7 (495) 250-81-88 From meeting at ripe.net Fri Apr 13 17:07:14 2007 From: meeting at ripe.net (RIPE Meeting) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:07:14 +0200 Subject: [regional-russia] REMINDER: Visa application for RIPE 54 Message-ID: <461F9CA2.4090102@ripe.net> Dear Colleagues, The RIPE 54 Meeting takes place in three weeks time. If you hold a Russian passport and will be attending the meeting, we urge you to arrange your visa for Estonia as soon as possible. It can take up to *30* days to process a visa and all Russian passport holders will require the visa to enter the country. *If you have not already applied for your visa, please contact: meeting at ripe.net.* A visa will be applied for on your behalf by Norby Telecom. This organisation is the host of the RIPE Meeting and will be your sponsor for the duration of your stay in Estonia. If the visa application is successful, you will be informed and can pick up your visa at your local Estonian Embassy or Consulate. Kind regards, Sandra Gijzen RIPE NCC From meeting at ripe.net Fri Apr 13 18:49:03 2007 From: meeting at ripe.net (RIPE Meeting) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:49:03 +0200 Subject: [regional-russia] REMINDER: Visa application for RIPE 54 In-Reply-To: References: <461F9CA2.4090102@ripe.net> Message-ID: <461FB47F.7000006@ripe.net> Dear Dmitry, I understand your concerns. I spook with Kristiine from NORBY she will send you the information as soon as she receives it from the ministry. I hope it will be soon, I will call her on Monday again. If you have any quesitons, please do not hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Sandra Gijzen RIPE NCC Dmitry_Burkov at burkov.aha.ru wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:07:14 +0200 > RIPE Meeting wrote: >> Dear Colleagues, > > Sandra, > it seems that something wrong - I asked for visa support > more then on month ago and didn't get it yet. > > regards, > Dmitry Burkov >> The RIPE 54 Meeting takes place in three weeks time. If >> you hold a >> Russian passport and will be attending the meeting, we >> urge you to >> arrange your visa for Estonia as soon as possible. It can >> take up to >> *30* days to process a visa and all Russian passport >> holders will >> require the visa to enter the country. >> *If you have not already applied for your visa, please >> contact: >> meeting at ripe.net.* A visa will be applied for on your >> behalf by Norby >> Telecom. This organisation is the host of the RIPE >> Meeting and will be >> your sponsor for the duration of your stay in Estonia. >> >> If the visa application is successful, you will be >> informed and can pick >> up your visa at your local Estonian Embassy or Consulate. >> >> Kind regards, >> Sandra Gijzen >> RIPE NCC >> > From president at ukraine.su Fri Apr 13 21:53:46 2007 From: president at ukraine.su (Max Tulyev) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:53:46 +0000 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <461FDFCA.3000904@ukraine.su> ?????? ????! poty at iiat.ru wrote: > ????? ????????? "????????". ?? ???? ???? ?? ? ????. ??????? PI ??? ????? ?????????: ?? ?? ?????? ?????? ? ?????????????? suballocation, assignment... ?? ??????? ???? ? ??????? ????????. "The RIPE NCC no longer allocates PI address space. Consequently, many LIRs do not have PI allocations from which to make PI assignments. If an LIR has an End User that requires PI address space they are able to support them by sending these requests to the RIPE NCC on behalf of the End User. This support includes helping End Users prepare a properly documented request. The RIPE NCC will make PI assignments when justified." ??? ????????, ??? RIPE ?? ???????????? ???????? ?????? ?? PI ?? end-user'?? (? ?????? ?????? ???? ???????????? ???? x-ncc-regid). ?? ??? ?? ?????, assignment'? ?????? ?????? ??? RIPE, ? ?? LIR. ? ????????, ? ?? ??????????? ??????? (???????????? "helping End Users prepare a properly documented request"), ??? ??? ????, ??? ??? ????????? ???????? ???????? ??? ????? "??????" ?? PI :) ? ?????? ?????? ??? ????? ? ??? ?????????? ? ???????????? PI/AS ????????? ?? ??????, ? ???????? ?????? ?? ??????? ?????. ? ????????? ???? ???: route (??? ???? ??? ?????? ????????? ? ????????? ?? ?????) backresolve, ?? ? ????? *-c ?? ??. > ???????????? ????? ??? ???, ????????, ????? - ??? ???????????? routing policy. ? ????? ??? ????????? ????????... ???????? maintainer ?? AS - ????? ??????????? ????, ?????? ??? AS ????????????? ? ??? score ?? billing, ? ??????? ?? ??? ?? ???????. ?? ???????? maintainer ?? AS ? ?????? ?? PI - ???? ?????? ????????: ???????? (??, ? ?? ?????? ??? ???????????) ? ???????????? routing policy ????? ?????? ??. AS, ????? ??? ??, ??? ? PI, ?????????????? ? ???????? ??????????, ?????? ? ??? ?????????. -- WBR, Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) From president at ukraine.su Fri Apr 13 21:55:55 2007 From: president at ukraine.su (Max Tulyev) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:55:55 +0000 Subject: [regional-russia] REMINDER: Visa application for RIPE 54 In-Reply-To: <461FB47F.7000006@ripe.net> References: <461F9CA2.4090102@ripe.net> <461FB47F.7000006@ripe.net> Message-ID: <461FE04B.3000107@ukraine.su> I can confirm it too. I sent request - nothing happens. RIPE Meeting wrote: > Dear Dmitry, > > I understand your concerns. > > I spook with Kristiine from NORBY she will send you the information as > soon as she > receives it from the ministry. > > I hope it will be soon, I will call her on Monday again. > > If you have any quesitons, please do not hesitate to contact me. > > Best regards, > Sandra Gijzen > RIPE NCC > > > > Dmitry_Burkov at burkov.aha.ru wrote: >> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:07:14 +0200 >> RIPE Meeting wrote: >>> Dear Colleagues, >> Sandra, >> it seems that something wrong - I asked for visa support >> more then on month ago and didn't get it yet. >> >> regards, >> Dmitry Burkov >>> The RIPE 54 Meeting takes place in three weeks time. If >>> you hold a >>> Russian passport and will be attending the meeting, we >>> urge you to >>> arrange your visa for Estonia as soon as possible. It can >>> take up to >>> *30* days to process a visa and all Russian passport >>> holders will >>> require the visa to enter the country. >>> *If you have not already applied for your visa, please >>> contact: >>> meeting at ripe.net.* A visa will be applied for on your >>> behalf by Norby >>> Telecom. This organisation is the host of the RIPE >>> Meeting and will be >>> your sponsor for the duration of your stay in Estonia. >>> >>> If the visa application is successful, you will be >>> informed and can pick >>> up your visa at your local Estonian Embassy or Consulate. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Sandra Gijzen >>> RIPE NCC >>> > -- WBR, Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO) From president at ukraine.su Sat Apr 14 18:23:20 2007 From: president at ukraine.su (Max Tulyev) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:23:20 +0300 Subject: [regional-russia] RIPE NCC & LIR status In-Reply-To: <20070413080253.GA55719@demos.net> References: <4618A9A0.7090502@ukraine.su> <20070413080253.GA55719@demos.net> Message-ID: <4620FFF8.4090003@ukraine.su> /me ?????????? ???? ??? ?? ????????. ???????? ??????? ????? ????????????. ???????? ????? ???? ?? ??? ?? ????? ????????? ??? ?????? ??????? ???????, ??? ? ??????? ?????? ?? ????????. ?? ? ??????, ? ??? ??????? ??????? ??????????? ?????? ? ? IX'?? ???, ????????? msk-ix'? ????????? ?????? P.S. ?? ?????? ?? ?????? ???????? ? ?????? PI ? PI+AS. Gennady Abramov wrote: > ??????? - ????? AS ????? ?????? ??? ????????. ???????????? ???? PI-??????? > ????? ? ???????????? ??????????? ???????????... -- WBR, Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO)