[ncc-services-wg] New RIPE NCC Procedural Document Available
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Sergey Myasoedov
sergey at devnull.ru
Mon Jun 28 17:53:40 CEST 2010
Hi Hank, it seems that you can make a proposal because there is no clear procedure for such scenarios. At the moment I can not see what resources were marked as my end user or not, due to disabled functionality of LIR portal. -- Sergey Monday, June 28, 2010, 5:10:01 PM, you wrote: HN> At 16:53 16/07/2009 +0200, Andrea Cima wrote: >>[Apologies for duplicate emails] >> >>Dear Colleagues, >> >>The RIPE NCC has published a new RIPE NCC procedural document: >>ripe-475, "Independent Internet Number Resources Contractual >>Relationship Changes between sponsoring LIR and End User" >> >>This document describes the steps to be taken when there are changes in >>the contractual relationship between the End User of independent >>Internet number resources and the sponsoring Local Internet Registry >>(LIR). It also describes the scenarios in which the RIPE NCC may >>de-register independent Internet number resources and what happens to >>those resources once they are de-registered. >> >>The new document is available at: >>http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-475.html HN> I'd like to once again raise this issue which I did a year ago and did not HN> get sufficient answers. Here are two scenerios that are happening: HN> - scenerio 1: I have marked a resource as "not my end user", yet RIPE HN> responds as follows when I request that they move the resource from my LIR HN> to the new sponsoring LIR: HN> "We haven't received any documentation yet. HN> Please inform the End User of ASxxxxx to ask from their new LIR to HN> submit the transfer request in a new ticket in HN> enduser-contract at ripe.net." HN> I think after a year and about a dozen emails to the old user and the new HN> sponsoring LIR I have gone beyond my responsibility on this matter. What HN> does RIPE intend to do with those resources that the new sponsoring LIR or HN> the end user just can't be bothered to do the registration change? If I HN> mark a resource as "not my end user", why are they asking "please inform HN> the end user..." HN> - scenerio 2: I have marked a resource as "not my end user" and have heard HN> from the end user that they have walked away from the resource. I have HN> requested that RIPE delete this resource yet the answer I get from RIPE is HN> "We did not receive any reply from the End User, so we HN> can not return ASxxxx to the free pool without their confirmation. HN> We will send another reminder to the End User." HN> The end user will never respond since they no longer exist or don't care to HN> respond. At what point will RIPE reclaim the resource? HN> I think there should be clear written procedures for these cases. HN> Regards, HN> Hank
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