hostcount features [Re: [ncc-services-wg] RIPE50 - NCC Services WG Draft Minutes]

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Pavel Vachek wrote:

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> Dear Peter,
> you wrote:
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> > First, it's never complete, so you only find those organisations who both
> > happen to use the wrong IP addresses and are within your TLD, while
> > nothing prevents them from using COM, BIZ or XXX {filter food} names as well.
>
> You are perfectly right. I have been using only the `.cz'
> hostcount TLD raw data and no other TLD data because I thought
> that this was the most common kind of misuse here.

I only access the .il hostcount raw data and have only a need to access
that particular cctld and am willing to be either technically or
administratively limited that cctld.  -Hank

>
> > Second, and more important, this kind of policing, although it has been done
> > for years, might reduce the willingness of affected and other parties to
> > allow AXFR access. Experience shows that many organisations have only and
> > explicitly granted AXFR access to support the hostcount statistics data
> > collection (and some DNS quality postprocessing). So, declaring "raw data
> > access" a feature of the hostcount is detrimental to its success. It was a
> > side effect that's gone.
>
> Noone from our TLD has ever complained about my access to the
> hostcount data. If they did not like it, they probably just
> inhibited the AXFR access to their domains.
>
> > -Peter
> >
> > PS: Just to be clear: the DE hostcount raw data must not be published.
>
> I had never even looked at it. Whan I was signing the
> Hostcount AUP statement I had explicitly written that I was
> interested only in the `.cz' TLD data.
>
> Best regards,
> Pavel Vachek, CESNET NIC, Prague.
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