[members-discuss] Marketing? Really?
Daniel Stolpe stolpe at resilans.se
Wed Oct 23 11:04:21 CEST 2013
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote: > > On 23 okt 2013, at 10:26, Daniel Stolpe <stolpe at resilans.se> wrote: > >> >> On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Yiorgos Adamopoulos wrote: >> >>> ???? 22/10/2013 8:39 ??, ?/? J?nis Jaunoš?ns ??????: >>>> I like atlas and labs :( >>> >>> Atlas and labs are things that I expect from RIPE NCC because of our >>> membership. >> >> How long have you been a member? Maybe new members are used to this playground business from the start and the older members are more sceptic. >> >> This is more of a principal question than a financial one. With all new members there is probably room in the budget for a lot of not really important things at the same time as the membership fees go down. >> >> But in principle, the Réseaux IP Européens should be about European IP resources. > > > > While I have some healthy skepticism against some RIPE NCC projects, and > some of the ways they came to be, I think it's also fair to point out > that the activities of the RIPE NCC is presented in the RIPE NCC > activity plan, and that they as of the last one actually does a better > job of breaking up costs in it. Absolutely. Thanks to some Russian shouting, if I remember things correctly. ;-) > If you, me or anyone else have concerns or opinions on it, the right > thing is to post comments on it when it is presented to members every > year. Unfortunately the posting if normally comes with a very quiet > mailing list. What we should all be doing during the year though is to > compare activities to it and provide feedback on how well (or not) we > think it's executed. I agree. But I rarely see any debate about this, so if someone has an opinion, it is not obvious when or where to speak up. > That is partly why the NCC Services WG was created once upon a time, and > we have (but rarely) had feedback in there on the performance of the > activities of the NCC. This mailinglist is of course also a good > channel, but I think we need to accept that the NCC does what is in the > activity plan approved by it's members.... Yes. If the majority is happy, then we are done. Cheers, Daniel _________________________________________________________________________________ Daniel Stolpe Tel: 08 - 688 11 81 stolpe at resilans.se Resilans AB Fax: 08 - 55 00 21 63 http://www.resilans.se/ Box 13 054 556741-1193 103 02 Stockholm