[members-discuss] Re: New RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Models: Feedback Required

On 08/02/2011 02:52 PM, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, Daniel Suchy wrote:
>> (and
>> there're some organisations/LIRs activelly selling PI address space as
>> their "service", charging much more [more than double] than they pay for
>> the resource in RIPE).
> 
> THIS my friend, is EXACTLY what a LIR is supposed to do. register ip
> space for third parties and charge them for the service.
> 
> the whole LIR == ISP crap, is a misinterpretation of the tasks of both
> RIPE and LIRS, as is the fact that they encourage potential LIR
> customers of becoming a LIR themselves, rather than paying a LIR to
> register PI space for them (the legal aspects of which, are questionable
> as well, after all, LIRS pay RIPE to enable them to register PI space,
> not for RIPE to steal their customers ;)
> 

Yes, LIR register addresses for their customers and charges them. That's
clear.

But, one of goals of LIR system (and internet registry system in
general) is address space aggregation. And by the (resselled) PI space,
this goal isn't reached at all - with PI, there's no aggregation. This
is very often forgotten by some LIRs.

"PI for everyone" is also one misinterpretation of LIR tasks. End users
should be aware about the fact, that ISP(LIR) change does mean
renumbering of their network and PI isn't here just because someone End
users doesn't like this annoying job. LIR should learn about this their
End users - but many LIRs doesn't do this part of their job.

- Daniel