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Martin List-Petersen
martin at airwire.ie
Sun Jun 21 22:52:20 CEST 2009
Max Tulyev wrote: > Martin, > > Votes can be done as PGP signed e-mails. These e-mails can be published > on web site or sent to all interesting people via e-mail. So everyone > can check their votes are counted right. As anybody can check PGP signs, > it is not a problem voting through RIPE NCC web site. > > P.S. Remember the board elections: people put ballots inside a hat, then > a few guys went out with the hat, did something (probably counted > ballots) and said the result. So the current voting system already not > better than voting through the LIR portal ;) Well, they didn't leave. They were in the back of the room. But yes, any online voting system will a) give more people a chance to vote and b) be more precise I just stated by personal preference and reasoning. Do what you want from there :) I know what I'm voting for, if it comes up to a vote. Kind regards, Martin List-Petersen -- Airwire - Ag Nascadh Pobail an Iarthair http://www.airwire.ie Phone: 091-865 968 > > Martin List-Petersen wrote: >> Hank Nussbacher wrote: >>> At 01:41 PM 19-06-09 +0100, Rob Evans wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>>> voting through the lir portal, great idea. >>>>> (first on the agenda, the correction of 2007-01).. >>>> Could you clarify what you want electronic voting for? >>>> >>>> The policy development process? Which doesn't have any voting at the >>>> moment, it is a consensus-based approach on open mailing lists -- please >>>> read the link that Andy Davidson sent around earlier for more >>>> information. >>>> >>>> Or the General Meeting where decisions are made relating to the RIPE >>>> NCC? (Voting on the RIPE NCC executive board, accepting the charging >>>> scheme and budget, etc.) >>> Budgets, charging schemes, etc. If a vote is called for at an AGM and >>> 50 out of 5000 people vote, there should be the ability to submit ones >>> vote via the LIR Portal as well. It is called democracy. >> Well. It goes even further. >> >> At the AGM it was raised, if this should be done via a postal voting >> system, the LIRportal or an external open source system. >> >> And to be honest, the LIRportal is in control of the NCC. >> >> I made it very clear, that I'd prefer >> >> a) if we spend money/ressources on something to let anybody benefit from >> that, ergo send it towards and existing open source system, >> >> b) i'd like to be able to check myself, that the underlying voting >> system actually does, what it says on the tin. >> >> c) maybe we don't want to give the NCC any chance (we know they don't do >> it, but why tempt them), with tampering with the way the system counts >> the votes. >> >> The external open source system, maybe even handled by an external >> entity would cover all those 3 points. >> >> Now, the vote on that hasn't been done yet, but there was some clear >> opinions on where we go, because I didn't stand alone in the room with >> that opinion. >> >> As for budgets, charging schemes, etc., yes, that's up for >> vote/discussion at the AGM. Correct. >> >> Kind regards, >> Martin List-Petersen > > -- Airwire - Ag Nascadh Pobail an Iarthair http://www.airwire.ie Phone: 091-865 968
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