Re: [lir-wg] IPv6 assignments to RIPE itself
- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:27:59 +0100
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 15:37:27 +0100, Gert Doering wrote:
> Just calling those parties ISPs will not solve the dilemma. A big company
> that wants to give IP connectivity to their employees (like the RIPE NCC
> does) is not an "ISP" in the classic sense, as it's not their main
> business.
>
> On the other hand, if you call everybody that happens to offer an ISDN S0
> for dialup to their employees purposes an ISP, then most of our business
> customers could be called ISPs - which defeats the "one /48 for end sites"
> rule again.
I agree. Maybe the difference is how the home network is connected? For
most people, the normal conenctivity is via traditional ISPs. They get
a /48 from that ISP. They may also have some kind of connectivity (VPN
or dialup) to their company network. But I think that's mostly used for
"secure" access to company services. Usually one /64 out of the company
prefix will be enough. The company does not need to assign /48s to its
employees.
University xDSL, cable and fiber networks are different. Usually, it's
the only connectivity for the students or employee. And they prefer to
get /48. In this case the university can be seen as an ISP.
I think some uncertainty comes from the fact that most ISPs are still
not offering IPv6 services and people are trying to get an IPv6 prefix
somewhere else.
> I still don't think that it's very easy to define a given business
> relation as "this is an end-end-end customer", and "that is an ISP".
Thinking more about it, I agree.
rvdp
