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Re: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?

  • To: Kurt Erik Lindqvist < >
  • From: Daniel Karrenberg < >
  • Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:15:36 +0000

On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 05:58:14AM +0100, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
> you are here implying that the members only react because it's to their 
> disadvantage....
> What is starting to worry me is the 
> replies indicating that asking these questions would be improper....

[OK. I go for the red banket, just this once ....;-)]

If these are inferences on my contributions here, they hold no water. 

Asking questions and making concrete and constructive suggestions is not
just OK but very good.  Of course it would be ideal if this would happen
beore the decisions being discussed are taken.  Now we just have to take
this as input for the next such decision.  And I would hope to see
concrete suggestions and proposals when the next decision point comes
up. 

Having said that I want to make clear that I take issue with polemics
without even taking the time to obtain the information that is
available.  I take issue with polemics against open and due process
without stating where the process has been closed or not proper.  I take
issue with polemics claiming that "me and everyone else thinks X"
without any substantiation of the claim.  I take issue with polemics
against a widely announced and low threshold open membership survey 
conducted by a well respected third party without suggesting a better
alternative. ....

This starts to remind me of ICANN discussions. 

It would be more constructive if we could hear suggested content
for the activity plan 2004.

Daniel



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