[lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?
Neil J. McRae
Tue Nov 26 12:49:30 CET 2002
Sorry Andre but I'm with Peter on this one. The RIPE fees simply don't add up, its an expensive organisation and it needs to trim a lot of the fat out of it. See Peters message on the tickets, if it really costs that much then we have a severe problem, some people don't even pay that much money for a years worth of DSL access. Regards, Neil. > -----Original Message----- > From: lir-wg-admin at ripe.net [mailto:lir-wg-admin at ripe.net] On > Behalf Of Andre Oppermann > Sent: 25 November 2002 17:43 > To: Peter Galbavy > Cc: Gert Doering; Axel Pawlik; Local IR Working Group > Subject: Re: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ? > > > Peter Galbavy wrote: > > > > Those documents are written in the best > EU-bureaucrating-English that > > money can't sell. Most stuff I see go past as announcements has me > > asleep before the first paragraph. I have tried to > (quickly) read the > > 2003 budget statement. Makes no sense as there is not enough > > information there for anyone to make a value judgement. The > document > > says 'X' and not 'X because'. > > > > What I cannot understand - sorry, it makes no sense - is why the > > budget requires new members ? Why is the budget not > growth/shrinkage > > neutral ? New members should pay for their own 'new' requirements > > through the set-up fee. Again, sorry to make accusations, > but whoever > > created a non-growth neutral budget is NOT doing their job right. > > Peter, > > why don't you go to your CFO or accountant and let them > interpret the budget for you? You don't seem to have any clue > how budgeting and business plans work. I think everyone on > this list would be very grateful if you'd stop ranting until > you understand economics 101. > > Cheers > -- > Andre > > > > > That would be the RIPE board. > > > > OK. I remember something about elections, but will any > board members > > here please speak up ? In your opinion is the 2003 budget correct ? > > Any doubts ? If you have no doubts, then I strongly suggest > that you > > are not doing the right thing... > > > > > Ummm. They are separate. RIPE is "the community". The > RIPE NCC is > > > the body that does the work for us, and is paid for doing that. > > > They do what > > > *we* put in their activity plan. > > > > I don't remember asking to be RIPE. I am a paying for the > functions of > > the RIPE-NCC. I don't want any other services, research, funded > > testing or anything. What I (and many others) want is a > registration > > service that is policy neutral because it is 'fair'. > Anything else is > > just profiteering. > > > > Peter >
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