[lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?
Mon Nov 25 18:28:05 CET 2002
> But that's not true in this case. The proposed activity plan was > announced *right not this list*, and in good time to add comments and > eventually make people vote on the AGM against it. ... > While I can understand your anger - why don't you just go and *read* > the RIPE document with all the numbers in it? This year there was a > net *loss*, as the "new members" rate was far lower than planned - and > much of the budget (like RIPE training courses) is planned to be paid > from thoese fees. Those documents are written in the best EU-bureaucrating-English that money can't sell. Most stuff I see go past as announcements has me asleep before the first paragraph. I have tried to (quickly) read the 2003 budget statement. Makes no sense as there is not enough information there for anyone to make a value judgement. The document says 'X' and not 'X because'. What I cannot understand - sorry, it makes no sense - is why the budget requires new members ? Why is the budget not growth/shrinkage neutral ? New members should pay for their own 'new' requirements through the set-up fee. Again, sorry to make accusations, but whoever created a non-growth neutral budget is NOT doing their job right. > That would be the RIPE board. OK. I remember something about elections, but will any board members here please speak up ? In your opinion is the 2003 budget correct ? Any doubts ? If you have no doubts, then I strongly suggest that you are not doing the right thing... > Ummm. They are separate. RIPE is "the community". The RIPE NCC is the > body that does the work for us, and is paid for doing that. They do what > *we* put in their activity plan. I don't remember asking to be RIPE. I am a paying for the functions of the RIPE-NCC. I don't want any other services, research, funded testing or anything. What I (and many others) want is a registration service that is policy neutral because it is 'fair'. Anything else is just profiteering. Peter
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