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Re: Refuse een assignment because it 'cannot' be routed?

  • From: "Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet" < >
  • Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:03:18 +0100
  • Cc:

  To continue that (cute | silly | pick-your-choice) analogy...

=> I only want a fixed frontdoor (1 fixed IP address), but I am trying to force
=> my landlord into letting me have it without paying tripple rent, by asking
=> the government (RIPE) to give me a building permission to install more
=> doors. Not because I want more doors, but to keep the landlord from moving
=> my single door every day :)
=> 
=
=Hi,
=
=  Hmm... this analogy isn't correct. RIPE is not the government in this.
=RIPE, or your local LIR can give you a door (address assignment), but 
=you still need to get a permit from the local counsil to place it 
=(Getting your service provider to actually route it).
=
=One of the things your local LIR may require before selling you a door
=is having a permit. Buying the door somewhere else (RIPE) does not 
=automagically entitle you to a permit.

  ...what we are seeing in reality, though, is something like the
  "government" (the RIPE NCC) coming back with a question about the
  colour and style of the door.
  And - depending on your answer - either going ahead issuing a
  _permanent_ permit for e.g. an Ethernet- or leased-line-style door
  ("static"), but limiting the validity of the permit for an xDSL- style
  or dial-up door to as long as you, or someone from your family, happens
  stay at home ("dynamic"). As soon as you go to work, or even worse -
  take a couple of days off, duhh!!! - you have to submit another
  application for installing a door.

  And, the "government", suggests to the manufaturers of the doors (and/or
  to the landlord), to give you a call on the phone every, say, 8 hours,
  to confirm that you haven't left for shopping (physicly) or turned to
  RTFM (virtually/mentally logging off).
  
  That's exactly what happens to me, back home, with my ADSL link being
  dropped every 8 hours by the ISP *on purpose*, because the NCC sort of
  "suggests" to the ISPs to use dial-up ratio mechanisms for 24x7 xDSL,
  flat rate billing.

  Very clever, indeed, in particular when someone tries to do stuff that
  is security-aware.
  
  But I have beaten that one to death before (technology independence of
  assignment rules). Sigh...
  
  Wilfried.
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