Re: Refuse een assignment because it 'cannot' be routed?
- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:34:34 +0000
> > My analogy would be that unless you pay tripple rent you are not allowed
> > to sub-let (connect more PCs with official addresses, atough you could
> > always
> > get married (NAT)) or start a small shop in your garage (put up a Warez
> > sorry
> > Web server)
>
> No! no! no! :)
> I only want a fixed frontdoor (1 fixed IP address), but I am trying to force
> my landlord into letting me have it without paying tripple rent, by asking
> the government (RIPE) to give me a building permission to install more
> doors. Not because I want more doors, but to keep the landlord from moving
> my single door every day :)
>
Hi,
Hmm... this analogy isn't correct. RIPE is not the government in this.
RIPE, or your local LIR can give you a door (address assignment), but
you still need to get a permit from the local counsil to place it
(Getting your service provider to actually route it).
One of the things your local LIR may require before selling you a door
is having a permit. Buying the door somewhere else (RIPE) does not
automagically entitle you to a permit.
>
> > Moving from a volume charge service (dialup) to a fixed fee service (DSL)
> > I do not find it that unreasonable to in some way limit the amout of
> > Internet
> > you can consume.
>
> I agree totally, but that is not my point. The point is that currently among
> all ADSL providers in my area, I can only choose between
> - package A: 1 dynamic IP, 1 or 10 GB traffic/month, no servers etc.
> and
> - package B: 1 static IP, 25 GB traffic/month or more, guaranteed minimum
> speed, web/mail server allowed, router+webspace+mailboxes included etc.
>
> Package A is fine for me, except the dynamic IP. I do not want to run
> servers or connect multiple computers (unless by using NAT). I want to
> connect through a firewall that only allows connections based on source IP
> address.
>
>
> > I have always assumed that IP addresses is a comodity ISPs hand out with
> > their services. If you buy service from an ISP then you get a reasonable
> > number
> > of IP addresses to use that service. If you buy a singe-user service, you
> > get
> > 1 IP address, if you buy a LAN service you get several addresses.
>
> Again I totally agree, but this is not the case in my area, imho.
>
>
> > If you don't buy the right kind of service from me, I am not going to
> > acknowledge
> > your IP address request.
>
> I am indeed afraid that this will be the ISPs' opinions, so I (sorry: the
> customer :)) guess threatening to go to the competition is the only way. But
> if there is no competitor offering what the customer wants, it's going to be
> a meaningless threat...
If this service is not currently being offered in your neighbourhood then
you could always start selling and provisioning it yourself if you think there
is a market for it.
Regards,
- marcel
