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Re: Refuse een assignment because it 'cannot' be routed?

  • To: "Herbert Baerten" < >
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  • From: "Hans Petter Holen" < >
  • Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:52:50 +0100

> I think it is more appropriate to state that someone is looking for a
house
> but all landlords he meets will move his front door every day unless he
pays
> tripple rent.

My analogy would be that unless you pay tripple rent you are not allowed
to sub-let (connect more PCs with official addresses, atough you could
always
get married (NAT)) or start a small shop in your garage (put up a Warez
sorry
Web server)

Moving from a volume charge service (dialup) to a fixed fee service (DSL)
I do not find it that unreasonable to in some way limit the amout of
Internet
you can consume.

> "If a LIR is obliged to assign address space (is it?),

I don't think so.

> wouldn't it make sense to oblige a provider to route it"

I have always assumed that IP addresses is a comodity ISPs hand out with
their services. If you buy service from an ISP then you get a reasonable
number
of IP addresses to use that service. If you buy a singe-user service, you
get
1 IP address, if you buy a LAN service you get several addresses.

> or the other way'round:
>
> "If an address space request is made, is the non-willingness of an ISP to
> route it sufficient grounds to deny the request?"

If you don't buy the right kind of service from me, I am not going to
acknowledge
your IP address request.

> That's the point. Can the customer somehow (e.g. by submitting a ripe-141)
> force the ISP to assign him a static ip address? Or will it get him
nowhere?

In my opinion: Hardy. The ISP may then loose the customer of course bu that
that is
a comercial desicion.


But Hey, I would love to buy a high speed domestic internet connection with
some
IP addresses to connect my computers, but unfortunately nobody is willing to
offer me
that yet.

-hph





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