Refuse een assignment because it 'cannot' be routed?
Anne Marcel Roorda
Wed Feb 28 12:34:34 CET 2001
> > My analogy would be that unless you pay tripple rent you are not allowed > > to sub-let (connect more PCs with official addresses, atough you could > > always > > get married (NAT)) or start a small shop in your garage (put up a Warez > > sorry > > Web server) > > No! no! no! :) > I only want a fixed frontdoor (1 fixed IP address), but I am trying to force > my landlord into letting me have it without paying tripple rent, by asking > the government (RIPE) to give me a building permission to install more > doors. Not because I want more doors, but to keep the landlord from moving > my single door every day :) > Hi, Hmm... this analogy isn't correct. RIPE is not the government in this. RIPE, or your local LIR can give you a door (address assignment), but you still need to get a permit from the local counsil to place it (Getting your service provider to actually route it). One of the things your local LIR may require before selling you a door is having a permit. Buying the door somewhere else (RIPE) does not automagically entitle you to a permit. > > > Moving from a volume charge service (dialup) to a fixed fee service (DSL) > > I do not find it that unreasonable to in some way limit the amout of > > Internet > > you can consume. > > I agree totally, but that is not my point. The point is that currently among > all ADSL providers in my area, I can only choose between > - package A: 1 dynamic IP, 1 or 10 GB traffic/month, no servers etc. > and > - package B: 1 static IP, 25 GB traffic/month or more, guaranteed minimum > speed, web/mail server allowed, router+webspace+mailboxes included etc. > > Package A is fine for me, except the dynamic IP. I do not want to run > servers or connect multiple computers (unless by using NAT). I want to > connect through a firewall that only allows connections based on source IP > address. > > > > I have always assumed that IP addresses is a comodity ISPs hand out with > > their services. If you buy service from an ISP then you get a reasonable > > number > > of IP addresses to use that service. If you buy a singe-user service, you > > get > > 1 IP address, if you buy a LAN service you get several addresses. > > Again I totally agree, but this is not the case in my area, imho. > > > > If you don't buy the right kind of service from me, I am not going to > > acknowledge > > your IP address request. > > I am indeed afraid that this will be the ISPs' opinions, so I (sorry: the > customer :)) guess threatening to go to the competition is the only way. But > if there is no competitor offering what the customer wants, it's going to be > a meaningless threat... If this service is not currently being offered in your neighbourhood then you could always start selling and provisioning it yourself if you think there is a market for it. Regards, - marcel
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