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  • From: Graham Burke < >
  • Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 10:18:27 +0000
  • Organization: NSL NET


Yeah dammit how dare you use an LIR mailing list to discuss lir issues....
What do you think you are ISPs.
t'sich tsich

:-)

Graham



On Fri, 08 Dec 2000,  wrote:
>Why don't you guys use the newsgroups instead of "spamming" your opinions all over busy  people...
>
>Thnaks.
>Nick
>
>>>> Kurt Erik Lindqvist kurtis@localhost 12/07/00 17:01 PM >>>
>
>> It seems Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
>>  >That ofcourse depends on what services you want to offer your
>>  >customers.....
>>  >
>>  >I don't see why you want to break services in order to solve assignment
>>  >policies? This said, I do realise that there is a assignment policy aspect
>>  >to this as well.
>> 
>> You might realise that you will end up breaking promises to customers if 
>> the offered services collide with acceptable assignment policies.
>
>I do. That is why I wrote that I realise that this is a problem. But I am
>seeing more and more companies offering Internet connections while in
>reality what the customer is getting is more or less a Intranet
>connection. 
>
>This is a complex issue that in the end is up to what the customer has
>bought. 
>
>> We are going to run out of IPv4 space very quickly if the assignment of, 
>> for instance, /29's to home users becomes standard procedure at ISP's - and 
>> bruno's mail does indicate that this is already happening:
>> 
>> "[...]several new ISP in Europe are starting to offer "always on" Internet 
>> access.
>
>The interesting part is ofcourse not that people are offering it. The
>interesting part is how many  do actually sign up? Always on Internet have
>been around in Europe since the early '80:s. The price might have been
>somewhat high for consumers though...:)
>
>As I pointed out earlier and others as well - Maybe buy starting to use
>the address space for what it was intended for to provide a Internet
>connection) we can get a real push to go for another addressing scheme
>like IPv6 or IPv8 (just kidding). Or maybe something completly new.
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>- kurtis -
>
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