Re: [ripe-167] Impressions brought from Moscow meeting
- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 17:44:26 +0200
Libor,
Actually what you are saying doesn't contradict to what Rimas has said. All
he said was that no one country can make a decision [to join the Russian
RIR] on behalf of another country. On the other hand, you are absolutely
right, we can't compromise a censorship on Internet.
Best Regards,
Moudrick Dadashov
DB Systems, Ltd. - EUnet LITHUANIA
-----Original Message-----
From: Libor Dostalek dostalek@localhost
To: Rimas Janusauskas rimas@localhost
Cc: Andrew Stesin stesin@localhost; ncc@localhost ncc@localhost;
lir-wg@localhost lir-wg@localhost
Date: 1998 m. Vasaris 10 d. 11:35
Subject: Re: [ripe-167] Impressions brought from Moscow meeting
>Rimas Janusauskas wrote:
>
>> If Russia want to establish new RIR, which (according to authors of the
>> document) could solve specific problems, let them do it! If any country
>> want to join Russian RIR, we have no right to contradict - it's their
>> choise.
>
>You are not right. Internet is worldwide, but people in some countrieshave
only
>restricted Internet conectivity - there is a censorship on
>Internet in some countries. In some countries, religion is censoring,
>in others it is sex. There are countries where Internet is accessible
>only for designated group of citizens.
>
> If we keep silence, we could live to only restricted connectivity in
> our country in the future, too.
>
> Democracy brought to me not only the possibility to buy tropical
> fruits, but especially if I wish to connect to the Internet, I may send
> my requirements to Amsterodam - without any permission from Moscow.
>
>Unfortunately there is no law of nations for Internet like the
>Geneva Convention. There are no human rights for Internet. The
>Internet is based on keeping the word only.
>
>It is necessary to be very careful if one wants to delegate authority
>to countries without democracy traditions. In that case, there is the
possibility to
>create areas with resticted Internet access.
>For example, the areas with restricted Internet access could be
>created for rebulic fighting for Independecy.
>
>Mr. Andrew Stesin informs European Internet Community of his impressions
>from Moscow meeting. I think, his doubts are well-founded. For example, the
>main reason for establishing RIR in CIS are the time zone differences (I
>know this problem. Time zone differences are unpleasant. It's quite normal
>in e-mail correspondence between Europa and America, to exchange 1
>mail daily only due to time differences). Reading RIPE-167, I expected
establishing LIR
>office for example in Novosibirsk and not in Moscow. Between Moscow and
Amsterodam
>there is only 2 hours time difference. I do not understand the attempt to
establish the
> LIR in Moscow, when RIPE NCC is the best office in the World.
>
>> On the other hand, nobody could compel 18 Ukrainian LIRs (as well as
>> Georgian, Moldavian, Chinese etc.) to be served by RosNIIROS instead of
>> RIPE NCC.
>
>China can't be served by RIPE, China is served by Asia Pacific
NetworkInformatin Center
>(look at http://www.apnic.net).
>
>Libor Dostalek
>The Czech Republic
>
Attachment:
smime.p7s
Description: application/pkcs7-signature
