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Re: ripe-104++

  • To: Carol Orange < >
  • From: Alain Golan < >
  • Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 21:27:25 -0600 (CST)
  • Cc:

There is an increasing number of entities requiring
 very small address space, I.E. 

- One address for a router
- One address for a Web-Server
- One address for a firewall
- up to 5 additional addresses for "other purposes".

In such cases, they will be allocated 8 or 16 addresses,
 ( netmask 240 or 248 ).

Requesting written "Additional information" or justification ,
 from the customer for a first allocation of 16 PA address space,
  make us (LIR) a bit ridiculous, and is overloading.

A telephone conversation like:

LIR - Helo Mr Joe,

Joe - Helo NetProvider

LIR - I understand that you are connecting to our services,
 and would like to setup addresses for You, what do you plan
 to connect to the Internet ?

Joe - Oh, I'll be running a web site for our skate-boards factory.

LIR - And, are you going to connect other computers to the net ?

Joe - not now, maybe next year I'll setup a mail gateway to
 our novell mail system.

LIR - Anything else in mind for the next two years ?

Joe - no, the administration don't want our internal network
 connected to the internet for security reasons.

LIR - Do you understand that I will allocate you 6 addresses,
 and that if you change your mind, and need more, you will
 have to change the addresses of those 6 hosts ?

Joe - Yes, but actualy it's only the web ... it's okay !

LIR - Is your company connected or connecting the Internet
 somewhere else ?

Joe - no, we don't have offices anywhere else.

LIR - Thanks.

---------------------------

Such a convertation is more realistic and saving more address
 space than sending the requested-info form.

-If Joe had filled the form, he would have probably asked for
 more than 8 addresses.

-For Joe to fill the form, LIR should have:

- Faxed explanation documents in addition to the person
 template.
- spent a lot of time explaining what are the fields.


It seems reasonable to me that if a request meet the following:
1) FIRST - First address allocation for this entity
2) PA - Provider Agregate
3) Less or equal to 8 (or 16 ?) ip addresses limit.
4) Connecting to the internet immediatly.

The address space will be allocated without getting & 
 filling a deployment plan and justification.

Does it make sense ? can it be accepted formally ?
 
(I understand that it is not the current policy). 
 

\Alain.







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