From Carol.Orange at ripe.net Sun May 5 23:44:28 1996 From: Carol.Orange at ripe.net (Carol Orange) Date: Sun, 05 May 1996 23:44:28 +0200 Subject: Charging by local IRs In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 30 Apr 1996 14:45:24 +0700." <009A1A2C.20CEF21A.15@cc.univie.ac.at> References: <009A1A2C.20CEF21A.15@cc.univie.ac.at> Message-ID: <9605052144.AA15388@ncc.ripe.net> "Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet" writes: >>BTW, technical curiosity: how do you intend to keep track of dangling >> pointers in the "new RIPE Web"? Carol mentioned that aspect briefly >> in the plenary report but didn't go into details... Hi Wilfried, Basically it works as follows. With the exception of a few top level pages to be maintained by hand, the pages made available on the web site will be formatted using a variation on the t/nroff ms macros (We could have used latex, but the majority of RIPE documents had already been formatted with ms macros). I'll use the example of the "RIPE database" as a typical string that should lead one to the Golden Truth about the database whenever it appears in a document published on the web site. The brute force procedure is to make a link to the Golden Truth wherever the term is used. Of course, as soon as a new Golden Truth document (or section of a document) is written, all links are out of date, and one is faced with a nightmare, which grows exponentially with the size of your document store. Rather than going through the documents and adding links to other documents, we add tags to say what strings should trigger a link to us. So in the document that is the Golden Truth on the RIPE database, you add a tag that says "RIPE database"should point to it. This can also be done for each section in the document. Our software gathers up all these tags in a document specific file. When the web site is generated (which has to happen whenever docs are changed), all the document specific tag files are gathered up and used to generate links. Then all the document files are searched to find out where the terms are that should get a link. A HTML version of each document is generated based on the formatting specified by the author and the links generated. And there's your document store without a dead link in sight. Admittedly, there are a lot of little annoying details like what to do with partial string matches, what to do if someone adds a tag for the term "Internet", what to do when more authors want the same term to point to their document, but they are details, and we've managed them. Hope that answers your question. Greetings, -- Carol From training at ripe.net Mon May 13 10:30:29 1996 From: training at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Training) Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 10:30:29 +0200 Subject: Local IR Training Course in Amsterdam Message-ID: <9605130830.AA07558@ncc.ripe.net> * * * Announcement * * * Due to a cancelation we have *one* more free place for our: Local Internet Registries Training Course Date: Monday 20th May, 1996 Time: 0900 - 1700 Venue: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Amsterdam Airport Schiphol Conference Centre If you are interested, please register asap (first come, first served ;-) -------------- next part -------------- Course Audience --------------- The target audience for this course is personnel of European Local Internet Registries that contribute to the RIPE NCC. Material Covered ---------------- The course is a one day introduction on Internet name, address and routing policy registration procedures in Europe. It also teaches how to query and use the information registered for operational purposes. This includes the following material and activities: o Overview of name, address and routing registration procedures. o Responsibilities of both RIPE NCC and Local IR's to each other. o Wider context of the Delegated Registry system and relevant issues (IPv4 address depletion, CIDR) and how this relates to IP requests. o How to use the RIPE NCC Database. o Use of AS numbers, Routing Registry concepts and an introduction to using PRIDE tools. o DNS feedback on commor errors, how to request delegations, and pointers to useful tools. We again stress that this course will *not* teach Local Registries on how to run their business as Internet Service Providers. It is clearly focussed on registration procedures and the interaction between the RIPE NCC and local IR's. A detailed outline is appended below. The course itself will include lunch and will be free. This of course does not include your travel and subsitence ;-). How to Register --------------- Please send an RSVP to if you would like to attend the course. If you have previously approached us about attending this course, we ask you to confirm that you (or a colleague) will be attending. Registrations will be accepted on a first come, first served basis. If the course is oversubscribed, we will give priority to local IRs who have most recently paid the signup fee. If it is still oversubscribed, we will accept only one person per new local registry. We will provide additional course dates as necessary. If a number of local registries so request, we will present courses at other European locations. If you would like a local course or have any questions or suggestions, please do not hesitate to contact us. The RIPE NCC Training Team: Mirjam Kuehne, Carol Orange --- Course Outline -------------- We will provide a slidebook and a reader on the day of the course, as well as electronically. It is planned to make detailed documentation available in the form of a guide much like the PRIDE guide. The program will divide the actual content into the following sections: 1. Introduction For those unfamiliar with the Delegated Internet Registry system and the RIPE NCC, this section will give a historical overview of how we have arrived at today's model of operation and why training of local IR's is a much needed activity. 2. IP Registry procedures This section will clarify the procedures between the RIPE NCC and local IR's with respect to requests for IP address space. It will take a step by step approach on how to complete documentation, the kind of information that is required, what the "handholding" procedure is, how to deal with very large requests, and very small requests, and more generally what criteria the RIPE NCC and local IR's use for their customers in the context of CIDR and IPv4 address depletion. 3. RIPE NCC Database This section will explain what the RIPE NCC Database is and how it fits into the scheme of other registry databases. It will cover how to create and update RIPE NCC Database objects and will explain how to query the database. 4. Routing Registry procedures This section will examine AS numbers, when you need them and how to request them. This will be set within the context of how AS numbers are used as part of the RIPE Routing Registry. Understanding the basic principles behind the Internet Routing Registry and how registering your policy is an important element in the global schema. This section will also include a brief introduction to the PRIDE tools and how they can be useful to you. 5. DNS procedures Where to request forward and reverse domain delegation. Which documentation should be completed. How reverse domain delegation requests are processed at the RIPE NCC (with a useful tool). We will also take a look at common errors in setting up DNS with respect to relevant RFCs and RIPE recommendations. Feedback Please! Throughout the course there will be ample chance for feedback and discussion with an emphasis for you to tell us how we can improve ;-). -------------- next part -------------- %%%%%%%%%%% PLEASE NOTE %%%%%%%%%%% Our handling of ALL course registrations is fully automated. To register for the course, please complete the registration form and send it to . Please send only the registration form in your reply and edit out all other text. Add in a value in the `box' area marked between the square brackets (i.e. "[" and "]" s). If you have any questions about the training course or your registration form, please contact us at . You will receive a notification message that your request has been processed. Many thanks, and look forward to seeing you, RIPE NCC Training Team ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- %START PART 1 - Registration 1) Your name Enter First name, Last name in FULL e.g. John Doe Mary-Beth Walton # NAME [ ] 2) Your Registry ID (format: country-code.) # REG [ ] 3) Your e-mail address # EMAIL [ ] 4) The course you plan to attend (date and location) # COURSE [ Monday 20th May 1996, Amsterdam, The Netherlands ] %END From training at ripe.net Mon May 13 15:18:34 1996 From: training at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Training) Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 15:18:34 +0200 Subject: Local IR Training Course Amsterdam - Registration closed Message-ID: <9605131318.AA14797@ncc.ripe.net> Dear Local IR's, The registration for the Local IR Training course in Amsterdam, 20th May 1996 has now (definitely ;-) been closed. As soon as we have scheduled additional Training Courses, we will announce them to . If your registration could not be accepted this time, please register again for the next course to confirm your continued interest in attending. If you are interested in having a course in your country for a number of local IR's, we would be happy to do this. To discuss this further, please send mail to . Kind regards, Naomi de Bruyn RIPE NCC Training Team From training at ripe.net Wed May 15 11:52:57 1996 From: training at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Training) Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:52:57 +0200 Subject: Local IR Training Course in Geneva Message-ID: <9605150952.AA26538@ncc.ripe.net> * * * Announcement * * * Local Internet Registries Training Course Date: Friday 19th July, 1996 Time: 09:00 - 17:00 Venue: ICC Building 20 Route de Pre-Bois 1215 Geneva Switzerland -------------- next part -------------- Course Audience --------------- The target audience for this course is personnel of European Local Internet Registries that contribute to the RIPE NCC. Material Covered ---------------- The course is a one day introduction on Internet name, address and routing policy registration procedures in Europe. It also teaches how to query and use the information registered for operational purposes. This includes the following material and activities: o Overview of name, address and routing registration procedures. o Responsibilities of both RIPE NCC and Local IR's to each other. o Wider context of the Delegated Registry system and relevant issues (IPv4 address depletion, CIDR) and how this relates to IP requests. o How to use the RIPE NCC Database. o Use of AS numbers, Routing Registry concepts and an introduction to using PRIDE tools. o DNS feedback on commor errors, how to request delegations, and pointers to useful tools. We again stress that this course will *not* teach Local Registries on how to run their business as Internet Service Providers. It is clearly focussed on registration procedures and the interaction between the RIPE NCC and local IR's. A detailed outline is appended below. The course itself will include lunch and will be free. This of course does not include your travel and subsitence ;-). How to Register --------------- Please send an RSVP to if you would like to attend the course. If you have previously approached us about attending this course, we ask you to confirm that you (or a colleague) will be attending. Registrations will be accepted on a first come, first served basis. If the course is oversubscribed, we will give priority to local IRs who have most recently paid the signup fee. If it is still oversubscribed, we will accept only one person per new local registry. We will provide additional course dates as necessary. If a number of local registries so request, we will present courses at other European locations. If you would like a local course or have any questions or suggestions, please do not hesitate to contact us. The RIPE NCC Training Team: Mirjam Kuehne, Carol Orange --- Course Outline -------------- We will provide a slidebook and a reader on the day of the course, as well as electronically. It is planned to make detailed documentation available in the form of a guide much like the PRIDE guide. The program will divide the actual content into the following sections: 1. Introduction For those unfamiliar with the Delegated Internet Registry system and the RIPE NCC, this section will give a historical overview of how we have arrived at today's model of operation and why training of local IR's is a much needed activity. 2. IP Registry procedures This section will clarify the procedures between the RIPE NCC and local IR's with respect to requests for IP address space. It will take a step by step approach on how to complete documentation, the kind of information that is required, what the "handholding" procedure is, how to deal with very large requests, and very small requests, and more generally what criteria the RIPE NCC and local IR's use for their customers in the context of CIDR and IPv4 address depletion. 3. RIPE NCC Database This section will explain what the RIPE NCC Database is and how it fits into the scheme of other registry databases. It will cover how to create and update RIPE NCC Database objects and will explain how to query the database. 4. Routing Registry procedures This section will examine AS numbers, when you need them and how to request them. This will be set within the context of how AS numbers are used as part of the RIPE Routing Registry. Understanding the basic principles behind the Internet Routing Registry and how registering your policy is an important element in the global schema. This section will also include a brief introduction to the PRIDE tools and how they can be useful to you. 5. DNS procedures Where to request forward and reverse domain delegation. Which documentation should be completed. How reverse domain delegation requests are processed at the RIPE NCC (with a useful tool). We will also take a look at common errors in setting up DNS with respect to relevant RFCs and RIPE recommendations. Feedback Please! Throughout the course there will be ample chance for feedback and discussion with an emphasis for you to tell us how we can improve ;-). -------------- next part -------------- %%%%%%%%%%% PLEASE NOTE %%%%%%%%%%% Our handling of ALL course registrations is fully automated. To register for the course, please complete the registration form and send it to . Please send only the registration form in your reply and edit out all other text. Add in a value in the `box' area marked between the square brackets (i.e. "[" and "]" s). If you have any questions about the training course or your registration form, please contact us at . You will receive a notification message that your request has been processed. Many thanks, and look forward to seeing you, RIPE NCC Training Team ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- %START PART 1 - Registration 1) Your name Enter First name, Last name in FULL e.g. John Doe Mary-Beth Walton # NAME [ ] 2) Your Registry ID (format: country-code.) # REG [ ] 3) Your e-mail address # EMAIL [ ] 4) The course you plan to attend (date and location) # COURSE [ Friday 19th July, Geneva, Switzerland ] %END From training at ripe.net Wed May 15 12:10:33 1996 From: training at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Training) Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 12:10:33 +0200 Subject: Local IR Training Course in Stockholm Message-ID: <9605151010.AA27152@ncc.ripe.net> * * * Announcement * * * Local Internet Registries Training Course Date: Friday 7th June, 1996 Time: 09:00 - 17:00 Venue: Royal Institute of Technology KTH/SUNET S-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden -------------- next part -------------- Course Audience --------------- The target audience for this course is personnel of European Local Internet Registries that contribute to the RIPE NCC. Material Covered ---------------- The course is a one day introduction on Internet name, address and routing policy registration procedures in Europe. It also teaches how to query and use the information registered for operational purposes. This includes the following material and activities: o Overview of name, address and routing registration procedures. o Responsibilities of both RIPE NCC and Local IR's to each other. o Wider context of the Delegated Registry system and relevant issues (IPv4 address depletion, CIDR) and how this relates to IP requests. o How to use the RIPE NCC Database. o Use of AS numbers, Routing Registry concepts and an introduction to using PRIDE tools. o DNS feedback on commor errors, how to request delegations, and pointers to useful tools. We again stress that this course will *not* teach Local Registries on how to run their business as Internet Service Providers. It is clearly focussed on registration procedures and the interaction between the RIPE NCC and local IR's. A detailed outline is appended below. The course itself will include lunch and will be free. This of course does not include your travel and subsitence ;-). How to Register --------------- Please send an RSVP to if you would like to attend the course. If you have previously approached us about attending this course, we ask you to confirm that you (or a colleague) will be attending. Registrations will be accepted on a first come, first served basis. If the course is oversubscribed, we will give priority to local IRs who have most recently paid the signup fee. If it is still oversubscribed, we will accept only one person per new local registry. We will provide additional course dates as necessary. If a number of local registries so request, we will present courses at other European locations. If you would like a local course or have any questions or suggestions, please do not hesitate to contact us. The RIPE NCC Training Team: Mirjam Kuehne, Carol Orange --- Course Outline -------------- We will provide a slidebook and a reader on the day of the course, as well as electronically. It is planned to make detailed documentation available in the form of a guide much like the PRIDE guide. The program will divide the actual content into the following sections: 1. Introduction For those unfamiliar with the Delegated Internet Registry system and the RIPE NCC, this section will give a historical overview of how we have arrived at today's model of operation and why training of local IR's is a much needed activity. 2. IP Registry procedures This section will clarify the procedures between the RIPE NCC and local IR's with respect to requests for IP address space. It will take a step by step approach on how to complete documentation, the kind of information that is required, what the "handholding" procedure is, how to deal with very large requests, and very small requests, and more generally what criteria the RIPE NCC and local IR's use for their customers in the context of CIDR and IPv4 address depletion. 3. RIPE NCC Database This section will explain what the RIPE NCC Database is and how it fits into the scheme of other registry databases. It will cover how to create and update RIPE NCC Database objects and will explain how to query the database. 4. Routing Registry procedures This section will examine AS numbers, when you need them and how to request them. This will be set within the context of how AS numbers are used as part of the RIPE Routing Registry. Understanding the basic principles behind the Internet Routing Registry and how registering your policy is an important element in the global schema. This section will also include a brief introduction to the PRIDE tools and how they can be useful to you. 5. DNS procedures Where to request forward and reverse domain delegation. Which documentation should be completed. How reverse domain delegation requests are processed at the RIPE NCC (with a useful tool). We will also take a look at common errors in setting up DNS with respect to relevant RFCs and RIPE recommendations. Feedback Please! Throughout the course there will be ample chance for feedback and discussion with an emphasis for you to tell us how we can improve ;-). -------------- next part -------------- %%%%%%%%%%% PLEASE NOTE %%%%%%%%%%% Our handling of ALL course registrations is fully automated. To register for the course, please complete the registration form and send it to . Please send only the registration form in your reply and edit out all other text. Add in a value in the `box' area marked between the square brackets (i.e. "[" and "]" s). If you have any questions about the training course or your registration form, please contact us at . You will receive a notification message that your request has been processed. 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