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Re: Question Regarding Behaviour Of German Top Level Registry

  • To: Max Gutberlet < >
    Local Internet Registries in Europe < >
  • From: Hank Nussbacher < >
  • Date: Tue, 19 Dec 95 20:38:22 IST

On Tue, 19 Dec 95 17:32:28 -0500 you said:
>But I DO NOT want a continous service form DE-NIC except 3 lines in their
>name server configuration file. EVERYTHING else is handled by us.
>
>Besides (I know this is impossible) but I would realy like to see the
>figures you mentioned. Here is a little calculation (remember we are talking
>maintenance not setup):
>
>Change of Name Server
>Address per year:                        2
>Amount of time for change in
>name server config:	        5 min. each
>----------------------------------------------
>			      10 Minutes (1/6 Hour)

For you it is 10 minutes but for 80% of the people it is about 30 minutes
and often more.  "Hello, I'd like a domain name."  "Ok, what is your
primary and secondary DNS?"  "My what!!??"  explain, explain, explain,
"But all I want is tada.co.cc!  I don't have a Unix system or Windows NT.
I am dialing into crISP and I don't want to be user@localhost"

and on and on and on.

And if you are not polite and helpful, you get a lawyers letter for
"denial of service" and "monopolization".

So NICs have to *average* out the time spent.  Not all users are as
up to date as you are.

Lastly, the entry in root does have a processing effect.  If you are a
popular site in the world, and everyone wants to get to www.tada.co.cc
then the root DNS will have to service those requests.  Now add up
a few thousand DNS entries just like yours and the Unix system needs
a memory upgrade.  After 3 years it needs a complete overhaul.  Who
pays for the new hardware?

So when doing you calculations, figure on 30 minutes and the
deprecation costs of a Unix system.

Incidentally, in Israel, where we started charging for domains back
in October 1994 (before everyone else realized it was necessary)
we set the fee at $50 - one-time and have stuck to it so far
without a problem.

>One Hostmaster Hour	      150 US$
>----------------------------------------------
>variable Costs		       25 US$
>
>Additional Costs per Entry	       100%    (should cover non technical tasks)
>non-variable Costs 		       100%    (access to net, host cost a.s.o)
>
>----------------------------------------------
>accumulated Costs	        75 US$
>
>
>The RIPE Staff should have a better view on what a hostmaster hour is worth
>and how much Name-Server changes there are per domain and year. The 100% are
>from my good old economics professor at the university.
>
>Greetings
>Max Gutberlet


Hank Nussbacher




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