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Re: Question Regarding Behaviour Of German Top Level Registry

  • To: (Max Gutberlet)
  • From: Rainer Bieniek < >
  • Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:33:08 +0100 (MEZ)
  • Cc:
  • Return-receipt-to: rainer@localhost (Rainer Bieniek)

> > Date: Tuesday, 19-Dec-95 04:30 PM
> > 
> > From: Arnold Nipper            \ Internet:    (nipper@localhost)
> > To:   Max Gutberlet            \ Internet:    (mgutberlet@localhost.
> co.at)
> 
>          [ ... some lines deleted ... ]
> 
> > DE-NIC is run by University of Karlsruhe as a three-year contract. DE-NIC
> acts
> > as maintainer of the toplevel domain DE and still runs the last resort
> > registry. Until Aug, 31th services were payed by the IV-DENIC and
> registration
> > of a secondlevel domain had to come via an IV-DENIC member. Since Sep, 1st
> > everyone can use services from DE-NIC on a cost basis calculated on
> figures for
> > running the DE-NIC in 1995 and agreed upon by all IV-DENIC members.
> > 
> 
> But I DO NOT want a continous service form DE-NIC except 3 lines in their
> name server configuration file. EVERYTHING else is handled by us. 
> 
Yes, you WANT continous service from them - at least you want a continously
running name service. You want a part of the staff's time to do some work for
you and so on. Brought down to a basic fact: 
This service costs money and somebody (and this means you :-) has to pay for
it.

> Besides (I know this is impossible) but I would realy like to see the
> figures you mentioned. Here is a little calculation (remember we are talking
> maintenance not setup):
> 
> Change of Name Server
> Address per year:                        2
> Amount of time for change in
> name server config:	        5 min. each
> ----------------------------------------------
> 			      10 Minutes (1/6 Hour)
> One Hostmaster Hour	      150 US$
> ----------------------------------------------
> variable Costs		       25 US$
> 
> Additional Costs per Entry	       100%    (should cover non technical tasks)
> non-variable Costs 		       100%    (access to net, host cost a.s.o)
> 
> ----------------------------------------------
> accumulated Costs	        75 US$
> 
> 
> The RIPE Staff should have a better view on what a hostmaster hour is worth
> and how much Name-Server changes there are per domain and year. The 100% are
> from my good old economics professor at the university.
> 
You'd better not bring in your economics professor here :-) He'd only prove
what you left out in your calculation

Anyway, you demand a service that simply costs money and because of your
organization is not a member of IV DE-NIC you pay the same price as any other
non-IV DE-NIC-customer. You are still free to ask any of the 8 Big ISP's
in germany if they are willing to organize the domain for you.
Your RIPE membership does not count on behold of this matter.

	Rainer Bieniek





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