From manuel at ripe.net  Mon Oct  8 15:44:35 2001
From: manuel at ripe.net (Manuel Valente)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:44:35 +0200
Subject: Existing tool: Robobijal
Message-ID: <20011008154435.01a60203.manuel@ripe.net>


Hi all,

At a previous RIPE meeting, Guy Vegoda gave a nice presentation about a
tool used at Level 3 to manage IP addresses - probably quite useful
already.

See http://www.robobijal.org



-- 
Manuel Valente - Software Manager - RIPE NCC

"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is
nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
(Antoine de Saint-Exupery)





From marck at rinet.ru  Tue Oct  9 20:46:13 2001
From: marck at rinet.ru (Dmitry Morozovsky)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:46:13 +0400 (MSD)
Subject: Existing tool: Robobijal
In-Reply-To: <20011008154435.01a60203.manuel@ripe.net>
Message-ID: <20011009223937.I85883-100000@woozle.rinet.ru>

Hello there Manuel,

On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Manuel Valente wrote:

MV> At a previous RIPE meeting, Guy Vegoda gave a nice presentation about a
MV> tool used at Level 3 to manage IP addresses - probably quite useful
MV> already.
MV>
MV> See http://www.robobijal.org

I'd given it a test trial ;-)

Unfortunately, it's not quite useful at current state, at least for me:

- many parameters which need to be configurable are hard-coded, and, which
is the worst, in more than one place :( [maintainer name and tech-c is the
first example ;->]
- total style of CGIs are not of "good behaviour" from server-side (CGI.pm
eith importing all methods, etc)
- there's no easy way to change pages design
- frame design is not text-browser friendly: I suppose it would be useful
to produce both framed and unframe version.

It is in my plans to dig into the sources and make some improvements; of
course, in such event I definitely will contact Guy and other authors to
make my changes public. However, currently I'm in hard lack-of-time
situation :(

Anyway, thanks to you and Guy to great start place. Keep up the good work
;-)

Sincerely,
D.Marck                                   [DM5020, DM268-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck at rinet.ru ***
------------------------------------------------------------------------






From manuel at ripe.net  Wed Oct 10 10:31:22 2001
From: manuel at ripe.net (Manuel Valente)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:31:22 +0200
Subject: Existing tool: Robobijal
In-Reply-To: <20011009223937.I85883-100000@woozle.rinet.ru>
References: <20011008154435.01a60203.manuel@ripe.net>
	<20011009223937.I85883-100000@woozle.rinet.ru>
Message-ID: <20011010103122.55e5bc24.manuel@ripe.net>

On Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:46:13 +0400 (MSD)
Dmitry Morozovsky <marck at rinet.ru> wrote:

Hi Dmitry,

> It is in my plans to dig into the sources and make some improvements; of
> course, in such event I definitely will contact Guy and other authors to
> make my changes public. However, currently I'm in hard lack-of-time
> situation :(

Everyone is :)

I also contacted someone at Global Crossing who should have such a tool
and agreed to release it.
I'll keep you informed.

-- 
Manuel Valente - Software Manager - RIPE NCC