From andrei at ripe.net Mon Oct 1 10:04:03 2007 From: andrei at ripe.net (Andrei Robachevsky) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:04:03 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] Deploying DNSSEC in e164.arpa zone In-Reply-To: <200709281008.l8SA8cJU087117@bartok.nlnetlabs.nl> References: <200709281008.l8SA8cJU087117@bartok.nlnetlabs.nl> Message-ID: <4700A9F3.40302@ripe.net> Jaap Akkerhuis wrote on 28-09-2007 12:08: > > this domain is signed, ALL servers respond with DNSSEC data EXCEPT the > RIPE server which do not support DNSSEC.... > > so if you resolve domains from 8.4.e164.arpa zone using RIPE server, you > can't get DNSSEC enabled answers. > > we will remove ns.ripe.net and the problem will be solved today. > > Ah, I might have hit that one, I just only tried it once. But there > is at least one lesson in this: you make sure al servers support > DNSSEC when you roll it out. > We are tracking down the problem together with NASK; as far as we can see ns.ripe.net returns the right dnssec information. > jaap > Andrei Robachevsky CTO, RIPE NCC From andrzejb at nask.pl Wed Oct 3 09:12:41 2007 From: andrzejb at nask.pl (Andrzej Bartosiewicz) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:12:41 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] ENUM for +48 Message-ID: <200710030712.l937CgXS000344@boromir.nask.net.pl> Our regulator officially announced public consultation for new User ENUM registration rules (proposed by NASK) for +48. The main differences to the existing rules are: 1. carrier approval is not necessary for domain name registration 2. validation should be done by Registrar (SMS for mobile, documents for PSTN and assigned blocks for PBX 3. CRUE for carriers 4. If case central database for "Number Portability, Caller Location for Emergency Services and Central Database of Telephony Subscribers" is implemented, User ENUM registry system will be integrated with this system. Document is available in Polish only. http://www.uke.gov.pl/uke/index.jsp?place=Lead07&news_cat_id=168&news_id=246 9&layout=3&page=text I will keep you informed on the progress of consultations and the (positive...) result. Best, Andrzej Bartosiewicz tel: +48.22.380.8395 tel: +1.310.817.6567 ENUM: 0.7.5.1.4.2.6.0.6.8.4.e164.arpa skype: abartosiewicz From enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de Thu Oct 4 14:37:23 2007 From: enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de (Carsten Schiefner) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:37:23 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] DNSMON policy proposal change Message-ID: <4704DE83.3000405@schiefner.de> Dear ENUM colleagues, Ondrej Sury of CZ.NIC just sent his proposal to widen the DNSMON policy to also monitor ENUM Tier 1 zones to the NCC Services WG mailing list - see below. Please send your comments to the NCC Services WG mailing list directly - this email is intended to be a mere pointer to this discussion thread. Kind regards, Carsten Schiefner RIPE ENUM WG Co-Chair -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ncc-services-wg] DNSMON policy proposal change Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:00:07 +0200 From: Ond?ej Sur? Organization: CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. To: ncc-services-wg at ripe.net Hello, I would like this WG to discuss following proposal to change DNSMON policy. I am also attaching new document (ripe-342-1.txt), and diff between this and current policy (ripe-342.diff). Number: TBD Policy Proposal Name: Allow DNSMON services to monitor ENUM domains Author: a. name: Ondrej Sury b. e-mail: ondrej.sury at nic.cz c. organisation: CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. Proposal Version: 1.0 Submission Date: 2007-08-01 Suggested RIPE Working Group for discussion and publication: ncc-services Proposal type: modify Policy term: permanent Summary of proposal: Policy text: a. Current: see ripe-342.txt b. New: see ripe-342-1.txt Rationale: a. Arguments supporting the proposal ENUM domains are already monitored by DNSMON on request when country ENUM administrator is also ccTLD registry. This proposal formalized this and also allows country ENUM administrators to request such service in case they are not ccTLD registry. b. Arguments opposing the proposal Only one argument was raised during discussion from Jim Reid which oppose idea of NCC doing non-core services for their members. -- Ond?ej Sur? technick? ?editel/Chief Technical Officer ----------------------------------------- CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- .cz domain registry Americk? 23,120 00 Praha 2,Czech Republic mailto:ondrej.sury at nic.cz http://nic.cz/ sip:ondrej.sury at nic.cz tel:+420.222745110 mob:+420.739013699 fax:+420.222745112 ----------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Andrzej Bartosiewicz tel: +48.22.380.8395 tel: +1.310.817.6567 ENUM: 0.7.5.1.4.2.6.0.6.8.4.e164.arpa skype: abartosiewicz -----Original Message----- From: enum-wg-admin at ripe.net [mailto:enum-wg-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Carsten Schiefner Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:37 PM To: enum-wg at ripe.net Subject: [enum-wg] DNSMON policy proposal change Dear ENUM colleagues, Ondrej Sury of CZ.NIC just sent his proposal to widen the DNSMON policy to also monitor ENUM Tier 1 zones to the NCC Services WG mailing list - see below. Please send your comments to the NCC Services WG mailing list directly - this email is intended to be a mere pointer to this discussion thread. Kind regards, Carsten Schiefner RIPE ENUM WG Co-Chair -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ncc-services-wg] DNSMON policy proposal change Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:00:07 +0200 From: Ond?ej Sur? Organization: CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. To: ncc-services-wg at ripe.net Hello, I would like this WG to discuss following proposal to change DNSMON policy. I am also attaching new document (ripe-342-1.txt), and diff between this and current policy (ripe-342.diff). Number: TBD Policy Proposal Name: Allow DNSMON services to monitor ENUM domains Author: a. name: Ondrej Sury b. e-mail: ondrej.sury at nic.cz c. organisation: CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. Proposal Version: 1.0 Submission Date: 2007-08-01 Suggested RIPE Working Group for discussion and publication: ncc-services Proposal type: modify Policy term: permanent Summary of proposal: Policy text: a. Current: see ripe-342.txt b. New: see ripe-342-1.txt Rationale: a. Arguments supporting the proposal ENUM domains are already monitored by DNSMON on request when country ENUM administrator is also ccTLD registry. This proposal formalized this and also allows country ENUM administrators to request such service in case they are not ccTLD registry. b. Arguments opposing the proposal Only one argument was raised during discussion from Jim Reid which oppose idea of NCC doing non-core services for their members. -- Ond?ej Sur? technick? ?editel/Chief Technical Officer ----------------------------------------- CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- .cz domain registry Americk? 23,120 00 Praha 2,Czech Republic mailto:ondrej.sury at nic.cz http://nic.cz/ sip:ondrej.sury at nic.cz tel:+420.222745110 mob:+420.739013699 fax:+420.222745112 ----------------------------------------- From enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de Thu Oct 4 14:52:58 2007 From: enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de (Carsten Schiefner) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:52:58 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] DNSMON policy proposal change In-Reply-To: <200710041245.l94CjLFL026344@boromir.nask.net.pl> References: <200710041245.l94CjLFL026344@boromir.nask.net.pl> Message-ID: <4704E22A.8000507@schiefner.de> Andrzej, all - Andrzej Bartosiewicz wrote: > Good idea. > > I would also add IPv6 as we discussed with RIPE 2 years ago... please send your commentary to the NCC Services WG mailing list to keep the discussion focussed. Carsten Schiefner RIPE ENUM WG Co-Chair From Niall.oReilly at ucd.ie Mon Oct 22 15:34:07 2007 From: Niall.oReilly at ucd.ie (Niall O'Reilly) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:34:07 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] Draft Agenda for ENUM WG at RIPE 55 Message-ID: Dear ENUM-WG Colleagues, Apologies for the delay in sending you all this updated agenda for the ENUM working group session at RIPE 55. Please note a related plenary presentation Emergency call handling (A.Mayrhofer) (Grand Ballrooom, 14:00-15:30 session, Tu 23 Oct 2007) ENUM WG session (St John's II, 11:00-12:30, Th 25 Oct 2007) A: Administrivia (5 min: 5/90) Welcome, Scribe, Jabberwok, Microphone etiquette, Agenda B: Note Minutes ENUM-WG of RIPE 54 [Already confirmed on list] C: Review Action List (5 min: 10/90) D: Main presentations (55 min: 65/90) D1: Motivating ENUM: avoiding the bottlenecks (K.Nieminen) D2: Infrastructure ENUM - implementation options for +31 (L.Maris/ P.Nooren) D3: ENUM: a heretic's view on SIP routing (O.Lendl) F: Short News (15 min: 80/90) [ May be curtailed in case of time pressure ] F1: Plan for Signing of E164.ARPA (A.Robachevsky) F2: +44 update (J.Reid) F3: +353 update (C.Daly) G: Discussion on Plenary presentation: Emergency call handling (A.Mayrhofer) [ if additional time for discussion is needed; may be referred to mailing list ] X: Interaction with other working groups (5 min: 85/90) X1: Extension of DNSMON to E164.ARPA (NCC-S & TT WGs) Y: AOB Z: Close (5 min: 90/90) Summary of action items Carsten and I look forward to meeting you all during the week. 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Due to the deafening response, I believe it's appropriate to declare this action item "closed" and to let the chairs of the other working groups know that we in the ENUM WG don't see parallel scheduling with AP WG as a problem. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly Co-Chair, RIPE ENUM Working Group -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Take this to the list. > ENUM-AP-54.3 [Carsten Schiefner]: liaise with ncc-services re > correspondence archive. The item immediately above should read as follows ENUM-AP-54.2 [Carsten Schiefner]: liaise with ncc-services re DNSMON > ENUM-AP-54.3 [Niall O'Reilly]: Ask mailing list about having the > ENUM WG session > in parallel with the AP WG Session at future RIPE Meetings. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly Co-Chair, RIPE ENUM Working Group -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, Niall O'Reilly Co-Chair, RIPE ENUM Working Group -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PGP.sig Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de Fri Oct 26 15:08:16 2007 From: enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de (Carsten Schiefner) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:08:16 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] Action Point 55.1 re. RIPE 54 minutes Message-ID: <4721E6C0.70300@schiefner.de> Dear ENUM-WG colleagues, from yesterday's ENUM WG session the Co-Chairs took the following Action Point 55.1: Co-Chairs to follow up an inconsistency of the action summary with the already approved RIPE 54 minutes: amend the summary appropriately to fit with the body text. This is what the concerned part of the action summary reads now: === (cf. http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/enum/minutes/r54-minutes.html) Action Points: CONTINUED ENUM-AP-52.2 [Carsten Schiefner]: NCC correspondence archive -> Working Group list. CLOSED ENUM-AP-53.1 [RIPE NCC]: RIPE NCC to examine and report on "strange queries". ENUM-AP-53.2 [Carsten Schiefner]: Carsten Schiefner to follow up on Quality TF. ENUM-AP-53.3 [Niall O'Reilly]: "NON-REGISTRY issue". NEW ENUM-AP-54.1 [Carsten Schiefner] Think about the task and scope of quality checks and form a new Quality TF. Take this to the list. ENUM-AP-54.3 [Carsten Schiefner]: liaise with ncc-services re correspondence archive. ENUM-AP-54.3 [Niall O'Reilly]: Ask mailing list about having the ENUM WG session in parallel with the AP WG Session at future RIPE Meetings. === After the amendment it will read: === Action Points: CONTINUED ENUM-AP-52.2 [Carsten Schiefner]: NCC correspondence archive -> Working Group list. CLOSED ENUM-AP-53.1 [RIPE NCC]: RIPE NCC to examine and report on "strange queries". ENUM-AP-53.2 [Carsten Schiefner]: Carsten Schiefner to follow up on Quality TF. ENUM-AP-53.3 [Niall O'Reilly]: "NON-REGISTRY issue". NEW ENUM-AP-54.1 [Carsten Schiefner] Think about the task and scope of quality checks and form a new Quality TF. Take this to the list. ENUM-AP-54.2 [Carsten Schiefner]: liaise with ncc-services re DNSMON being also applied to ENUM Tier-1 zones. ENUM-AP-54.3 [Niall O'Reilly]: Ask mailing list about having the ENUM WG session in parallel with the AP WG Session at future RIPE Meetings. === The second last line, starting with "ENUM-AP-54.2" now, will thus correctly reflect what is already minuted under agenda item X. Kind regards, Carsten Schiefner RIPE ENUM WG Co-Chair From enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de Fri Oct 26 22:30:24 2007 From: enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de (Carsten Schiefner) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:30:24 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] Action Point 55.1 re. RIPE 54 minutes In-Reply-To: <4721E6C0.70300@schiefner.de> References: <4721E6C0.70300@schiefner.de> Message-ID: <47224E60.0@schiefner.de> Dear all, the super-quick RIPE NCC webmaster has changed that accordingly already: thank you! Have a quiet and peaceful weekend, Carsten Schiefner RIPE ENUM WG Co-Chair Carsten Schiefner wrote: > Dear ENUM-WG colleagues, > > from yesterday's ENUM WG session the Co-Chairs took the following Action > Point 55.1: > > Co-Chairs to follow up an inconsistency of the action summary with the > already approved RIPE 54 minutes: amend the summary appropriately to fit > with the body text. > > This is what the concerned part of the action summary reads now: > > === (cf. http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/enum/minutes/r54-minutes.html) > Action Points: > > CONTINUED > ENUM-AP-52.2 [Carsten Schiefner]: NCC correspondence archive -> Working > Group list. > > CLOSED > ENUM-AP-53.1 [RIPE NCC]: RIPE NCC to examine and report on "strange > queries". > ENUM-AP-53.2 [Carsten Schiefner]: Carsten Schiefner to follow up on > Quality TF. > ENUM-AP-53.3 [Niall O'Reilly]: "NON-REGISTRY issue". > > NEW > ENUM-AP-54.1 [Carsten Schiefner] Think about the task and scope of > quality checks and form a new Quality TF. Take this to the list. > ENUM-AP-54.3 [Carsten Schiefner]: liaise with ncc-services re > correspondence archive. > ENUM-AP-54.3 [Niall O'Reilly]: Ask mailing list about having the ENUM WG > session in parallel with the AP WG Session at future RIPE Meetings. > === > > After the amendment it will read: > > === > Action Points: > > CONTINUED > ENUM-AP-52.2 [Carsten Schiefner]: NCC correspondence archive -> Working > Group list. > > CLOSED > ENUM-AP-53.1 [RIPE NCC]: RIPE NCC to examine and report on "strange > queries". > ENUM-AP-53.2 [Carsten Schiefner]: Carsten Schiefner to follow up on > Quality TF. > ENUM-AP-53.3 [Niall O'Reilly]: "NON-REGISTRY issue". > > NEW > ENUM-AP-54.1 [Carsten Schiefner] Think about the task and scope of > quality checks and form a new Quality TF. Take this to the list. > ENUM-AP-54.2 [Carsten Schiefner]: liaise with ncc-services re DNSMON > being also applied to ENUM Tier-1 zones. > ENUM-AP-54.3 [Niall O'Reilly]: Ask mailing list about having the ENUM WG > session in parallel with the AP WG Session at future RIPE Meetings. > === > > The second last line, starting with "ENUM-AP-54.2" now, will thus > correctly reflect what is already minuted under agenda item X. > > Kind regards, > > Carsten Schiefner > RIPE ENUM WG Co-Chair From lendl at nic.at Tue Oct 30 17:00:43 2007 From: lendl at nic.at (Otmar Lendl) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:00:43 +0100 Subject: [enum-wg] Nameservers for 9.3.e164.arpa are not responding Message-ID: <20071030160043.GA18090@nic.at> Luisa, the Italian ENUM tree is currently not operational. This has an impact on everybody who is running ENUM in a production service whenever a customers dials an Italian number. On other words: this outage causes a disruption in communication with Italy. Please fix your nameervers or tell the RIPE NCC to temporarily disable the delegation of 9.3.e164.arpa. Yours, /ol -- / Otmar Lendl , T: +43 1 5056416 - 33, F: - 933 \ | nic.at Internet Verwaltungs- und Betriebsgesellschaft m.b.H | \ http://www.nic.at/ LG Salzburg, FN 172568b, Sitz: Salzburg /