From watt at tut.by Fri Jun 1 21:44:37 2007 From: watt at tut.by (Vat) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 22:44:37 +0300 Subject: [enum-wg] Belarus ENUM delegation Message-ID: Hello! I am interested in presentation of my country, Belarus, in the list of approved ENUM delegations. The state structures do not wish to develop services similar ENUM, therefore I would like to advance itself the given service for people to improve their life,and also I want, that Belarus was the developed state in sphere of information technologies. And I have some questions how to delegee country code +375. Whether it is possible to take delegation on The individual businessman or it is necessary to register ENUM on Limited Company? Payment how many will manage, payment in month, year how many will manage? Whether the coordination with the Ministry of Communications is necessary on that that they not against to entitle to delegation? How long will be process of delegation in case of the positive answer? Whether that any coordination is necessary with whom? Best regards, Dmitry Gurbo --- ????????? ? ??????? ????? ????? - ???: http://tourism.tut.by From Niall.oReilly at no8.be Thu Jun 7 16:24:29 2007 From: Niall.oReilly at no8.be (Niall O'Reilly) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:24:29 +0100 Subject: [enum-wg] Re: ENUM in the blogosphere In-Reply-To: <4666A826.2080307@tssg.org> References: <200706061114.aa47477@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <52404B0E-C525-4D8E-A4C2-A20B3524A4F3@no8.be> <4666A826.2080307@tssg.org> Message-ID: <85AE0DF5-FDC8-4482-80EC-A6E96762C717@no8.be> On 6 Jun 2007, at 13:27, Miguel Ponce de Leon wrote: > Ireland we are giving the end users a chance to see if there is > innovation to be gained from using/deploying ENUM (As in home > subscribers can register unlike the situation in Finland). I'm not sure that it's quite as difficult as you suggest in Finland. Formally (IIUC), the situation is the same: the Tier-1 registry (FICORA, IENUM) only deals with Tier-2 registrars/service-providers. As a startup initiative, IENUM is offering an interim Tier-2 registrar-of-last-resort service. It may be that there is a sufficient number of approachable Tier-2 service providers in Finland for this not to be needed over there. I don't know. Certainly, the FICORA web site seems to avoid giving any helpful hint. Maybe Klaus would like to comment? /Niall -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PGP.sig Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From Klaus.Nieminen at ficora.fi Fri Jun 8 06:37:27 2007 From: Klaus.Nieminen at ficora.fi (Nieminen Klaus) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 07:37:27 +0300 Subject: [enum-wg] VS: ENUM in the blogosphere References: <200706061114.aa47477@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <52404B0E-C525-4D8E-A4C2-A20B3524A4F3@no8.be> <4666A826.2080307@tssg.org> <85AE0DF5-FDC8-4482-80EC-A6E96762C717@no8.be> Message-ID: <07BC6C0D40216E44A34BE6701694FE8603BE2AA6@POSTI.laru.local> Dear all, The problem we are facing currently with the user ENUM is that the validation requires support from the operators and compared to the discussion we had when choosing the validations model, the operators seem to have lost all their interest to support the service. Therefore we have currently only 1 operator that is offering the validation service. I'm planning to make a proposal to remove the operator control over the validation. If the situation won't change, we are likely to do this change in a near future. What comes to the other functions (regiatration and Tier 2-services), we have not seen any problems with them. And if we face problems like a lack of service providers, I think that should be easy to correct anyway :) In the end I have to apologize, because I'm do not aware of the topic you are actually discussing. Anyway I hope this helps. In my vocabulary IENUM = Infrastructure/Operator/Carrier ENUM that is totally a different story. That is being deveoped with a good speed... regards, - Klaus ________________________________ L?hett?j?: Niall O'Reilly [mailto:Niall.oReilly at no8.be] L?hetetty: to 7.6.2007 17:24 Vastaanottaja: Miguel Ponce de Leon Kopio: Niall O'Reilly; Nieminen Klaus; enum-wg at ripe.net; David Malone Aihe: Re: ENUM in the blogosphere On 6 Jun 2007, at 13:27, Miguel Ponce de Leon wrote: > Ireland we are giving the end users a chance to see if there is > innovation to be gained from using/deploying ENUM (As in home > subscribers can register unlike the situation in Finland). I'm not sure that it's quite as difficult as you suggest in Finland. Formally (IIUC), the situation is the same: the Tier-1 registry (FICORA, IENUM) only deals with Tier-2 registrars/service-providers. As a startup initiative, IENUM is offering an interim Tier-2 registrar-of-last-resort service. It may be that there is a sufficient number of approachable Tier-2 service providers in Finland for this not to be needed over there. I don't know. Certainly, the FICORA web site seems to avoid giving any helpful hint. Maybe Klaus would like to comment? /Niall -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Niall.oReilly at ucd.ie Fri Jun 8 10:03:26 2007 From: Niall.oReilly at ucd.ie (Niall O'Reilly) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 09:03:26 +0100 Subject: [enum-wg] VS: ENUM in the blogosphere In-Reply-To: <07BC6C0D40216E44A34BE6701694FE8603BE2AA6@POSTI.laru.local> References: <200706061114.aa47477@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <52404B0E-C525-4D8E-A4C2-A20B3524A4F3@no8.be> <4666A826.2080307@tssg.org> <85AE0DF5-FDC8-4482-80EC-A6E96762C717@no8.be> <07BC6C0D40216E44A34BE6701694FE8603BE2AA6@POSTI.laru.local> Message-ID: <59804073-2812-45AE-A32E-70564D655357@ucd.ie> On 8 Jun 2007, at 05:37, Nieminen Klaus wrote: > In my vocabulary IENUM = Infrastructure/Operator/Carrier ENUM Thanks for mentioning this, Klaus. It's something I had not thought of as a source of confusion, on account of being so close to the action. IENUM Ltd is the company which has signed the agreement with ComReg, the Irish regulator, to provide ENUM Tier-1 service for +353. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly University College Dublin IT Services PGP key ID: AE995ED9 (see www.pgp.net) Fingerprint: 23DC C6DE 8874 2432 2BE0 3905 7987 E48D AE99 5ED9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Begin forwarded message: > From: Carsten Schiefner > Date: 20 June 2007 23:14:08 IST > To: Nieminen Klaus > Cc: Kim Davies , Niall O'Reilly > > Subject: Re: ENUM Progress Matrix > Message-Id: <4679A6B0.70306 at schiefner.de> > > Dear Klaus, > > Nieminen Klaus wrote: >> We considered the need to answer the questions and the result of the >> internal discussions was that we would like to keep the information >> part as short as possible as longer text seem to make finding out the >> relevant information harder. I must also say that some of the >> questions >> are rather irrelevant for commercial implementations. > > please feel invited to suggest a better wording where appropriate. > Of course, we are open to any improvement this data collection can > get. > > Thanks in advance - best regards, > > Carsten /Niall -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Begin forwarded message: > From: "Lupton, Ronan" > Date: 21 June 2007 11:29:11 IST > To: ENUM-353-PAB at LISTSERV.HEANET.IE > Subject: FW: AEDG Meeting 6 June 07 draft minutes available on web > [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] > Reply-To: Irish ENUM Policy Advisory Board PAB at LISTSERV.HEANET.IE> > Message-Id: exmb06.emea.dsmain.com> > > If anyone is interested in looking at the Australian progress > please see below. > > From: David Gill [mailto:David.Gill at acma.gov.au] > Sent: 21 June 2007 03:30 > To: ENUM > Subject: AEDG Meeting 6 June 07 draft minutes available on web > [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] > > Discussion Group Members, > > The draft minutes of the June 6 meeting have been made available at: > http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD//pc=PC_2324 > > Please forward any comments or enquiries to enum at acma.gov.au. > > > Regards, > > David Gill > Communications Engineering Section > Australian Communication and Media Authority > 03 9963 6871 > > > > Verizon Ireland Limited ? registered in Ireland ? registered number > 224334 ? registered office at Erne Street, Dublin 2, Ireland ? VAT > number 8224334A From Niall.oReilly at ucd.ie Thu Jun 21 13:07:50 2007 From: Niall.oReilly at ucd.ie (Niall O'Reilly) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:07:50 +0100 Subject: [enum-wg] Session scheduling for RIPE 55 (and future): ENUM vs AP Message-ID: <42B46B5D-DD01-4EF6-BF86-5C1EC79E4F14@ucd.ie> From the current draft minutes from RIPE 54: Y. A.O.B. Niall explained that there is pressure to provide more space for the Address Policy WG, and the suggestion was made that there are some WGs whose communities are not be very interested in AP. Are there people here who wouldn't mind this session being parallel to AP. Carsten asked if Niall could send this to the list. ACTION 54.3: Niall O'Reilly to ask mailing list about having the ENUM WG session in parallel with the AP WG session at future RIPE Meetings. The meeting plan for RIPE 55 is currently being discussed among the WG Chairs and the NCC. As of the current draft, scheduling ENUM and Address Policy in parallel seems not to be under consideration, but re- arrangement to deal with other conflicts is likely and may change this. Please speak up, anyone for whom simultaneous scheduling of ENUM and Address Policy WG sessions would be a problem. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly Co-Chair, RIPE ENUM Working Group -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PGP.sig Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From brettcarr at ripe.net Fri Jun 29 14:44:11 2007 From: brettcarr at ripe.net (Brett Carr) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:44:11 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] ENUM-AP-53.1: RIPE NCC to examine and report on "strange queries" In-Reply-To: <4652EE32.7020407@schiefner.de> References: <80446E5F-6210-4798-B19A-BBA98C2C13B7@ripe.net> <4652EE32.7020407@schiefner.de> Message-ID: <9C0210BE-41D2-4FD8-8180-3C3A06995BE7@ripe.net> Carsten, first of all my sincere apologies for taking so long to answer your e-mail. On May 22, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Carsten Schiefner wrote: > Brett Carr wrote: >> At RIPE 54 in Tallinn we commited to providing more detail on the >> queries prepended with a + in statistics generated last year: > > Thanks, Brett. > >> In the time period measured (April-November 2006) >> There were 13797 queries prepended with a + >> 10081 came from a single source. > > Has that stopped in the meantime? > Well I did some further testing over the past couple of days and I still see some queries containing a + but nothing coming from the single source. >> 2738 came from two further sources. >> The rest came from 100 different sources. >> We hope that this level of data satisfies this action point. > > I recall a total of some 26,000 invalid queries - shall I take it > that the remaining 12,000 ones are equally spread over all sorts of > pathological queries? > Indeed they were mainly queries prepended with a 00 or an invalid country code. Brett -- Brett Carr Manager -- DNS Services Group RIPE Network Coordination Centre Amsterdam