Re: ENUM and unsolicited messages
- Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:49:26 -0500
At 01:16 PM 12/15/2003, Jim Reid wrote:
Impose stiff penalties and give the money to the enforcement folks or
private right of actions..
>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Shockey richard@localhost writes:
Richard> More importantly the US has and I'm told the UK is
Richard> looking into strong "do not call" legislation that
Richard> prevents unsilicited "phone calls" the way the
Richard> legislation was written in the US is technology neutral
Richard> and as such should cover VoIP very well.
This is all very well, but how can the law be enforced? I'm sure the
cops will say they have better things to do with their time if/when
someone complains. And what if the unsolicited VoIP call comes from
overseas or the cyber-cafe down the road? Good luck identifying the
caller let alone get them into court.
That is a fault of the law in the UK not in the concept of DNC's .The DNC
law here specifically prohibits masking identity etc and sets up very
serious fines etc ..ATT for instance was fined $900K for violating the
rules . what everyone forgets is that some one on a unsolicited call is
trying to sell you something .and that usually means they will have a US or
a EU "nexus" which means the regulator or enforcement agency can trace the
money path and potentially impose the appropriate penality . most call
centers even now are outside the US but you can trace the activity.
Perhaps I'm just been too cynical about this. UK regulations are
supposed to prevent me from receiving unwanted phone calls and SMS
messages. I've signed up for the telemarketer's opt-out lists. [It
should of course be an opt-in list for those who *want* to get this
crap, but let's have that debate another time.] Yet I still get
unsolicited calls and SMS. When I complain to my telcos, they say it's
nothing to do with them. And when I've complained to the regulator,
they say it's not their problem either. They say it's not their fault
some marketing companies don't use the opt-out lists and the regulator
has no way of compelled those companies to use them.
The US Federal Trade Commission ,for instance,did its own study of its own
SPAM and was able to successfully trace 80 of the spam to a US nexus...name
address, bank account etc.
Its just the UK does not have good penalties or the will to enforce them
unlike the US where it was so bad the political class got the message and
for once acted appropriately.
Richard Shockey, Senior Manager, Strategic Technology Initiatives
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