[db-wg] Re: abuse-c: proposal
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der Mouse
mouse at Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA
Mon Feb 9 21:35:16 CET 2004
>>> Do you really think that users would understand better if they read >>> "abuse-mailbox: user at example.com" instead of that sentence in >>> english which explains what the allocation is for and who should be >>> notified of abuse? Actually, yes. The only class of users for which equivalence is reasonable is humans who are competent in English. Non-human users (such as automated reporting tools), and to some extent non-anglophone humans, can be expected to have problems. > Maybe RIPE could provide a web page to query the DB for abuse desk > addresses (which would report no other data), Not a web page. Please, not a web page! If you _must_ use a web page, please cast the query and response formats in stone so that the result is scriptable. (Actually, there's nothing wrong with providing a human-friendly web interface per se. What I have a problem with is providing no automation-friendly interface. There is a strong tendency these days to consider a webpage as enough for all purposes, which it usually isn't.) > So far only one tool writer contributed to this thread, and he > reported that both abuse-mailbox and irt could be used by his tools. I'm a tool writer, though I haven't written any tools for this, largely because there is so little standardization among the various IP registries on query and response formats, and so many netblocks use human-targeted "remarks:" or equivalent to provide critical info. I would love it if we had something like abuse-mailbox:, especially if it had buyin from other IP registries (ARIN, registro.br, KRNIC, etc). Whether it actually is abuse-mailbox: or the IRT stuff is more or less irrelevant to me; buyin from others, quick deployment, and a format specified clearly enough to make queries automatable are much more important to me than the details of the spec. /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B
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