Re: [anti-spam-wg] Any suggestions about how to deal with non co-operative ISP's and RIR's ?
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From: peter h peter@localhost
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Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 19:50:24 +0200
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 22.25, Esa wrote:
> Jørgen Hovland kirjoitti:
> > Blacklisting the provider of the offender just because they are practising
> > what the government(s) is telling them to do is to me considered extremely
> > unprofessional and I would never do business with anyone doing that.
I disagree. Blacklisting a sleazy ISP is a way of tellking them
that you don't accept their "let-go" attitude.
> I have never seen that a government tells companies to allow unsolicited
> bulk e-mailing. Of course laws restrict what you can put in the
> contract, but contracts between companies are much more unregulated than
> those between a company and a person, this at least in Finland.
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> I would be really surprised if you cannot put a prohibition to ube in
> the contract.
Serious ISP has this. In fact, it has been part of "Netiquette" since the 90's
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> I don't think blocklist providers should consider at all if the law
> allows spamming or not. They should follow their own defined listing
> criteria. The blocklist users decide what they want to do with the
> information.
A blocklist expresses only an opinion. A mail-operator on the
other hand is free to accept or refuse mail on _any_ ground including
opinions from blocklists.
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> > I
> > wouldn't be surprised if a blacklist provider with that kind of policy some
> > day would be prosecuted because it is pretty darn close to three types of
> > extortion.
> But they have, already. See for example Media3 and MAPS (circa year
> 2000), or yesmail vs MAPS, or Harris Interactive vs. MAPS, or Experian,
> or Exactis.
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> Other blocklists have been sued as well, latest I've heard was Spamhaus
> vs. e360insight.
Spamhaus is still unaffected. Like other cases, spammers usually
get the short stick.
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> Yours,
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> esa
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