[anti-spam-wg] Any suggestions about how to deal with non co-operative ISP's and RIR's ?

  • From: oca@localhost
  • Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 08:50:30 +0200
  • Reply-to: oca@localhost

Any suggestions about how to deal with non co-operative ISP's and RIR's ?

When I receive a spam mail, I normally send a spam repport to the "abuse mail account" of the ISP being responsible for the IP address using the whois databases of the RIR's.

Normally this works very fine ... or rather ... I'm often able to deliver the repport somewhere without any problems.

But in some cases the given account dosn't exist or is hidden behind a spamfilter..

In these cases I have tried to contact the RIR of the ISP but with very different outcome ...

Some RIR's consider this as a problem they can deal with and some dosn't !!!

Last week I received a third spam mail from an ip address belonging to charter.net...

According to the whois of arin, and to the homepage of the ISP, I should repport abuse to abuse@localhost...

This I have tried several times getting an "unable to deliver" repport every time ...

Trying to raise this as an issue for ARIN gives this repply:

ARIN is an IP registry whose primary function is the registration and
distribution of IP number resources (IP addresses and Autonomous System
Numbers) in North America.

IP number resource registration information can be found in the
public ARIN WHOIS database found at:

 http://www.arin.net/whois/

Please understand that ARIN does not operate any of the networks contained
in the WHOIS database nor is ARIN responsible for supplying and
maintaining the registration data in the WHOIS database.  That
responsibility lies soley with the registrant of the data.

How do we fight spam, and other kind of abuse, as long as some of the ISP's and the RIR's has this kind of attitudes ?

Ole