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Re: [anti-spam-wg@localhost] Spam-RBL, anyone?

  • From: der Mouse < >
  • Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 23:00:05 -0500 (EST)

> Or perhaps "we" should set up a separate database covering ripe,
> arin, and all the rest ("reportabuse.net"? "abuse.info"?), which
> could also double as some sort of verification mechanism
> (supplementary to other mechanisms).

I pinged John Levine, who runs abuse.net, about this.  Here's his reply
(two-level quotes are from my letter to him):

>> Surely this has been suggested to you many times, so there is
>> presumably some reason why abuse.net doesn't do an IP-based list
>> similar to its domain-based list.  Is this a philosophical
>> objection, lack of resources (most likely human time), or it's
>> planned but not yet rolled out, or what?
> 
> I'd think it'd be a swell idea, but it's a lot harder than a domain list.
> The two problems are the resources to maintain it, since it'd be at least
> as much work as maintaining the domain list, and coming up with reasonable
> defaults for the 99% of IP space for which I'll never have specific
> entries.  For APNIC and RIPE space, the listed contacts are pretty
> reliable, for ARIN they're so-so, for LACNIC and the various country
> registries like Korea and Brazil, they're worthless.
> 
>> If someone else is interested in doing it, would you consider
>> bringing it under the abuse.net name?
> 
> If they do a good job, sure.

If anyone wants to start such a thing, I'll volunteer to take on the
load for Canadian netblocks.  I doubt I have the bandwidth to host it
at all, and I sure as hell don't have the bandwidth to handle the DDoS
attacks that will eventually show up if it becomes effective.

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