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Re: Commecial vs fairness (was: spam support)

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  • Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 16:22:33 +0000 (GMT)

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Jan Meijer wrote:

> There are many networks that *do* care.

Agreed, but there are many that do not and the number is growing on a
daily basis.

> However, it is a problem but your solution is not the answer.

I wouldn't have presumed that it would be.  Better suggestions are
welcome.

> I feel the central organization you're proposing is in conflict with
> the essence of the Internet.

It's just augmenting the role of the regional registries.

> What would be a far better idea is to get the Good Guys talking, and
> let them decide, each of them on their own, to block the unwilling
> networks.

This is already happening.  It isn't effective because it's not
co-ordinated.

> The essence of the Internet is interconnectivity.  Break the
> interconnectivity of a network, and you'll bring it down to its knees.

This one of the reasons why there needs to be some sort of AUP that is
enforced by the whole internet community.  DDoS is increasingly bringing
legitamate AS's to their knees.  DDoS would be less effective if all AS's
had correct border filters and responded to reports of compromised hosts
within a reasonable time frame.

> There are far more ways of organizing activity then to create one big
> central organization to police the Internet.

I'm not proposing that they police the whole of the internet.  What I am
proposing is that the rules for becoming (and remaining) an LIR get
tougher.  It's the LIR's responsibility to make sure that their individual
customer assignments stick to the rules.

Regards,


Rich





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