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Re: test message

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  • From: Steve Linford < >
  • Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:31:16 +0000
At 11:33 am +0100 (GMT) 14/11/01, Piet Beertema wrote:

I had a long conversation with the Italian MEP pushing the opt-out
legislation forward, Marco Cappato ... He said all ISPs must
provide the same system Hotmail has.



 And they all must vote Forza Italia, I suppose?
 Even so this guy provides the basis for a brilliant idea: every
 spammer *must* use a hotmail.com address, so you don't even have
 to look at the Subject to determine the nature of a message: the
 from-address will do, and SMTP has hold of this.




(I grew up in Italy so I speak Italian) I tried to explain to Cappato 
what could be blocked using SMTP, including the concept of the "NO 
UCE" SMTP Banner, but halfway into it I realized it was all going way 
over his head. Cappato says that every day he logs on to his Hotmail 
account and he sees the system has automagically filtered most of the 
junk into a convenient junk folder - so he says "what's the problem". 
Explaining that all of Europe's ISPs and corporate mail servers don't 
work like that, and that Hotmail has a dedicated group of anti-spam 
staff doing it is no use - he says all European ISPs must provide the 
same. Not even explaining that spam-filtering is a delicate balancing 
act that can occasionally block legitimate emails is any use.



I finally explained to him that the sheer volume of spam doesn't just 
mean that costs of dealing with it have to be passed on, but that his 
own Hotmail mailbox has a finite capacity beyond which correspondence 
from his colleagues, family and friends would start bouncing due to 
the mailbox already being full of spam. But when I sent him the email 
telling him that, the email came bouncing back because...



  Subject: [Undeliverable mail]: Re: Piccole precisazioni (opt-i

  From: MAILER-DAEMON@localhost

  To: linford@localhost

  Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:47:39 +0100

  Message-Id: <AUTOS.0000644768-644770@localhost



  Failed to deliver your message to mcappato@localhost:

  SMTP: The letter body is rejected by host

  Host 'mc3.law13.hotmail.com' says:

  552 Requested mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation



Aaaargh!



--

  Steve Linford

  The Spamhaus Project

  http://www.spamhaus.org














    

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