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Suresh Ramasubramanian
ops.lists at gmail.com
Sun May 11 19:26:57 CEST 2014
Saschas mailserver is one dead:d00d, as it's IP suggests.. Must be some new fangled 100% effective measure to block all spam, by rejecting all mail :) On 11-May-2014 10:52 pm, "Mail Delivery Subsystem" < mailer-daemon at googlemail.com> wrote: > This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification > > THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY. > > YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. > > Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed: > > ripe-lists at c4inet.net > > Message will be retried for 2 more day(s) > > Technical details of temporary failure: > Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server > for the recipient domain c4inet.net by mail.c4inet.net. > [2a02:2078:100:dead:d00d::25]. > > The error that the other server returned was: > 450 4.1.1 <ripe-lists at c4inet.net>: Recipient address rejected: User > unknown in local recipient table > > ----- Original message ----- > > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; > d=gmail.com; s=20120113; > > h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to > :cc:content-type; > bh=ezofrR9Jly/3K8mE1UqmUHR/6n8DMV0kIwu3A/4i2Gc=; > > b=MSgQCM7DYjHp5YOSPrfsb8iZ/yQQqREoH6I9a/OAMiQkheW/5A6t4oVVaIITFA4TvX > > u/WFlhbn6IcLAzy49jKqJDc8PSWolwFtvOPOZQ9JyXhUekb6L+hk9c9msFXmmNOXLN+6 > > eTznBX+DFnvI39YnbpEH2dqjOvQ9TeaKuP72tHJNr7I5Yyht2MotnE874bF5ZTIK5/gD > > WFnCl3KODF0r3bSJVqjFU4FK4K8MOhoBt7rB5Qwsn2Cv0aJuBWeJEiWxj54BdKqvJ/hy > > 0uW4e65bITM7QzKI5nbNMSAoMOPnDtjX4sr8FSPxf6oKC3VWCrUZa2q+1CsYAsncyFZP > ifaA== > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-Received: by 10.182.236.229 with SMTP id > ux5mr22650408obc.12.1399738727296; > Sat, 10 May 2014 09:18:47 -0700 (PDT) > Received: by 10.60.11.195 with HTTP; Sat, 10 May 2014 09:18:46 -0700 (PDT) > Received: by 10.60.11.195 with HTTP; Sat, 10 May 2014 09:18:46 -0700 (PDT) > In-Reply-To: <20140509145826.GA87032 at cilantro.c4inet.net> > References: <536CDE63.6070605 at heanet.ie> > <20140509145826.GA87032 at cilantro.c4inet.net> > Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 21:48:46 +0530 > Message-ID: < > CAArzuos+Cz0jcoXaiqo3Mjwjo09espso4+aPeTYkp0gk6u9hQA at mail.gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Working Group Charter > From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> > To: Sascha Luck <ripe-lists at c4inet.net> > Cc: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net, Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2e9cc9e759f04f90e110f > > That is a hair that need not be split. > > The meaning and intent are perfectly clear. > > And the meaning of abuse is varied enough, and ever changing, that it would > not be wise to get bogged down in definitions. > On 10-May-2014 9:09 pm, "Sascha Luck" <ripe-lists at c4inet.net> wrote: > > > Brian, > > > > On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 02:55:47PM +0100, Brian Nisbet wrote: > > > >> All systems and mechanisms, technical and non-technical used to create, > >> control and make money from network abuse. > >> > > > > to begin with, this sentence appears to fail grammatically even > > in the original text. Does "create, control and make" really refer to > > "money"? > > I also consider the new text over-broad. Without defining what "network > > abuse" is, you are potentially putting any commercial activity on the > > Internet under the remit of this WG. > > > > While areas such as cybersquatting or hosting illegal content are not > >> seen as a central part of the working group's remit, they are > >> unquestionably bound up in other aspects of network abuse and, as such, > may > >> well be areas of interest." > >> > > > > This is a statement without any evidence to back it up. Why should > > "hosting illegal content" (illegal in which jurisdiction, under which > > laws?) be "unquestionably" bound up with "other forms of network abuse"? > > > > As an example from the RIPE service region, hosting a gay website is > > now, AIUI, illegal in Russia. How, exactly, would this be "bound up with > > other forms of network abuse"? > > Without a clear definition, arrived at by way of consensus, of what > > "network abuse" is, I would strenuously object to such an expansion of > > the scope of this WG. > > > > rgds, > > Sascha Luck > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20140511/55c16422/attachment.html>
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