[anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Contact Finder is not checking admin-c from org object?

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 01:46:20PM +0400, Levon Avagyan wrote:

Dear Levon

> I need some help with proper setup of RIPE DB.
> I am currently updating our records and noticed that if i am adding ROLE abuse-c: "UCAB101-RIPE" with abuse-mailbox: "abuse at ucom.am" attribute to our org :"ORG-UL31-RIPE" object, it is not showing up in "Abuse Contact Finder" tool in Ripe Stat.
> It shows me message: "No contact information found for 44395"
> While if i am adding abuse-mailbox: attribute to org: object directly, it finds abuse contact just fine, however gives us 4/5 stars.
> 
> Is it a known bug or am i doing something wrong?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> P.S. 
> Query: "whois as44395" returns abuse contact just fine.

Short answer: Don't use it. ;)

I assume that the tool you are using is this one:
https://stat.ripe.net/special/abuse

The correct one is this one:
http://apps.db.ripe.net/search/abuse-finder.html

However, the first one (from Ripe Stat) is still widely used due the
fact that abuse-c is not fully deployed yet. Among others, the notable
Abusix.org claims to use it.

If I understand 
https://labs.ripe.net/Members/Paul_P_/content-abuse-finder correctly,
this tool doesn't look at aut-num at all. Please corect me if I'm wrong.

Moreover, this tool is full of false positives, no matter of how many
stars it will show at the end. For example - it was just two weeks ago
when I have deliberately created the situation that for not mine and not
maintained by me inetnum I have forced this tool to claim with 4/5 stars
that abuse at example.net is the contact information. Right now this is
impossible, since I have notified about this the RIPE NCC and this tool
is filtering the RFC-2606 dummy addresses out. Unfortunately, this was
just one of examples.

Best regards,
Piotr

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