[anti-abuse-wg] anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 19, Issue 20

Sat Mar 30 12:55:58 CET 2013

Scania is a Swedish truck company, with a subsidiary company in NL. For those more observant, the phone number given is incorrect for two reasons:

1) it has 9 digits and Holland has 10 as a standard (for years).

2) If the office is in Zwolle (netnumber 038), the phone number given is in Utrecht (030). This is possible of course, but confusing.

A question that could be asked is, does Scania NL really have its own IP range? Maybe, why not?

Taking it one step further. Looking at the Scania NLwebsite I see that the main office of Scania Nederland B.V. is in Breda (076), but a Scania production unit is in Zwolle with these contact details:

Scania Production Zwolle B.V.

 Russenweg 5

Postbus 618

8000 AP Zwolle

Tel: +31 (0)38-4977 611 

(See here from the contact details in the database +31 30977966 It's close, probably an extension number and two typos somewhere. Scania's? RIPE NCC's? A villain?)

A small check should suffice to correct the database I think.

Best,

Wout de Natris

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>    1. Re: A Network without contact! (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:57:12 +0530
> From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] A Network without contact!
> To: Arnold <wiegert at telus.net>
> Cc: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
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> The scania bv website shows the provide alternate contact information
> 
> --srs (htc one x)
> On 29-Mar-2013 10:53 PM, "Arnold" <wiegert at telus.net> wrote:
> 
> >  On 3/29/2013 4:19 AM, Reza Farzan wrote:
> >
> > ** ** ** **
> >
> > Hello All,****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Here is a network that I came across which does not have any contact
> > information:
> >  ********
> >
> >
> > Entries like it are the bane of SPAM reporters. But if you go to:
> > http://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html
> > and enter  *RS3212-RIPE* from the data you posted,
> > you will get something like
> >
> > *person:         Roelof Sondaar****address:        Scania Nederland B.V. Potbus 61S****address:        8000 AP Zwolle****address:        NL****phone:          +31 30977966****nic-hdl:        **RS3212-RIPE <http://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/person/RS3212-RIPE.html>****mnt-by:         **RIPE-ERX-MNT <http://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/mntner/RIPE-ERX-MNT.html>****source:         RIPE #Filtered*
> >
> > If you then follow nic-handle
> > you'll find:*person:         Roelof Sondaar****address:        Scania Nederland B.V. Potbus 61S****address:        8000 AP Zwolle****address:        NL****phone:          +31 30977966****nic-hdl:        RS3212-RIPE****mnt-by:         **RIPE-ERX-MNT <http://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/mntner/RIPE-ERX-MNT.html>***
> >
> > *changed: ** hostmaster at arin.net **19910628**
> > **changed: ** er-transfer at ripe.net** 20031003**
> > **source: RIPE*
> >
> > The contacts in red above, ought to be able to pass on information
> > and that is as close as you can get by e-mail - at least for now :-(
> >
> > Arnold
> >
> > ********
> >
> > ****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > inetnum:        148.148.0.0 - 148.148.255.255****
> >
> > netname:        SCANIF****
> >
> > descr:          Scania Nederland B.V.****
> >
> > descr:          ****P.O. Box** 618******
> >
> > descr:          8000 AP ****Zwolle********
> >
> > country:        NL****
> >
> > admin-c:        RS3212-RIPE****
> >
> > tech-c:         RS3212-RIPE****
> >
> > status:         EARLY-REGISTRATION****
> >
> > mnt-by:         ERX-NET-148-148-MNT****
> >
> > mnt-lower:      ERX-NET-148-148-MNT****
> >
> > mnt-routes:     ERX-NET-148-148-MNT****
> >
> > changed:        hostmaster at arin.net 19910418****
> >
> > changed:        hostmaster at arin.net 19910418****
> >
> > changed:        er-transfer at ripe.net 20031003****
> >
> > source:         RIPE****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > person:         Roelof Sondaar****
> >
> > address:        Scania Nederland B.V. Potbus 61S****
> >
> > address:        8000 AP ****Zwolle********
> >
> > address:        NL****
> >
> > phone:          +31 30977966****
> >
> > nic-hdl:        RS3212-RIPE****
> >
> > mnt-by:         RIPE-ERX-MNT****
> >
> > changed:        hostmaster at arin.net 19910628****
> >
> > changed:        er-transfer at ripe.net 20031003****
> >
> > source:         RIPE****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > How can someone contact this network? Does anyone know?****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Thank you,****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Reza Farzan****
> >  ********
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 10:54:33 +0200
> From: andre <andre at ox.co.za>
> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] A Network without contact!
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> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:00:11 +0100
> Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:
> <snip snip>
> > > phone:          +31 30977966
> > These two look very much contactish to me.  A postal address and a
> > phone number.
> > > How can someone contact this network? Does anyone know?
> > The phone thingie is something fairly recent, and a bit complicated.  
> > You have to pick up the phone, then type these numbers into the
> > numbered keys.  "+" will have to be entered as 00 or 000, or maybe as
> > "+", depending on the local setup, so you need to ask your local
> > phone expert how to work that.  But then it's magic, you can hear the
> > person on the other and just as if he were standing besides you.
> > Gert Doering
> 
> roflmao, the phone thingy is also increasing in complexity as it
> also takes pics, videos, pays for stuff purchased and in fact is
> becoming so sophisticated that it is easy to forget that you can also
> just talk into it... Hardcore old style / old school :) 
> 
> >   -- NetMaster
> >-- 
> >have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
> 
> IPV6? --> yip, my toaster! My toaster now successfully resolves 
> to a domain name and it is even thinking of starting it's own blog...
> "All about toast and sliced bread in the twenty first century"
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