[anti-abuse-wg] meeting minutes
Brian Nisbet brian.nisbet at heanet.ie
Tue Jun 12 18:18:02 CEST 2012
Hi, "lists at help.org" wrote the following on 12/06/2012 16:38: > Hi, > > the meeting minutes are so vague and unclear that most people would have > no idea what is discussed or what the issues are. For instance, the > issues include that there is no linkage between the EU privacy laws and > the actions taken by RIPE. The same goes for the so-called consensus > process. it is so vague and the issues are not spelled out so anyone can > claim a "consensus" even though the issues were never really identified. If the minutes are unclear you can view the full WG stream and read the stenography here: https://ripe64.ripe.net/archives/#Thursday https://ripe64.ripe.net/archives/steno/21 https://ripe64.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/anti-abuse-wg/ I'm not sure what other questions you have, precisely. > Also, there is a proposal to change the way abuse contacts are listed in > the database. however, there is no description as to what makes those > contacts fundamentally different from other contacts as it relates to > the law and the claimed "consensus". The minutes seemed designed to make > sure outsiders have no idea what is going on. The full text of 2011-06 as it stands right now can be found here: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-06 This policy has not reached consensus and is still in review phase, as Emilio stated last week. > It is interesting to note the ".ro" database that claims technical > contacts cannot be revealed because it is protected by a specific > privacy law. they also claim "copyrights" on the data even though > copyrights do not cover lists of facts like whois data. Interesting, certainly, but not relevant to 2011-06 because that only relates to the RIPE DB. In fact 2011-06 is attempting to make abuse contact more accessible to everyone, even in bulk. Brian.