[anti-abuse-wg] Loop error in APNIC whois database

Dear Wilfried,

Putting aside the specific reason for looking up a contact in this case 
and look at the wider consequence for the RIPE Database. I thought we 
disallowed self referencing ROLE objects. But we only disallow creation 
of self referencing ROLEs using 'AUTO-' and circular references with 
ROLE A -> ROLE B -> ROLE A.

The way the rules are now, taken to an extreme, the entire RIPE Database 
could exist without a single 'real' PERSON listed. All number resources 
could be anonymised by referencing self referencing ROLE objects. All 
allocations, mandatory organisations for allocations, ASNs, PI 
resources, routing data could be set up so that no real person takes any 
responsibility for any resource, publicly.

Of course real people still need to sign contracts to become members and 
get resources, but from a public perspective everything can be totally 
anonymised as the rules are now.

Regards
Denis Walker
Business Analyst
RIPE NCC Database Group


On 28/08/2012 16:14, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote:
> U.Mutlu wrote:
>
>> Because of errors in their DNS server I need to contact
>> their tech-c, not their abuse dept.
>
> I was under the impression that the contact for (technical) errors
> regarding DNS zone configuration is to be found in the zone's SOA
> record, as an RFC822 (or newer) field.
>
> And/or by way of the name registry and/or registrar.
>
> Where does the numbers registry information come into the picture?
>
> Wilfried
>
>