[anti-abuse-wg] Policy proposal: closing allocation/assignment window, was Policy disallowing spam from RIPE blocks

Hi,

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 02:05:31PM +0100, Shane Kerr wrote:
> > 1. Closing the allocation window / giving LIRs less leeway in
> > approvals [so there should be no difference in submitting a request
> > through a LIR, or through the RIR]
> 
> Do you mean the "assignment window"?
> 
> As I understand it, when you get an allocation from the RIPE NCC you
> can't actually use it for anything until you get approval to assign that
> space. After a certain amount of time, you have proven yourself
> more-or-less trustworthy, then you get an assignment window, and can
> make smallish assignments yourself without prior approval. These
> assignments are reviewed - both by automated tools and by humans - if
> and when you ask for another allocation.

Mostly correct, yes.  You still start with an AW=0, and that goes up
after 6 month to /22 if you have done some NCC-approved assignments in
that time.

(It was somewhat more strict in previous times, where you'd only get to
about the size you have assigned - while today, you always get /22 or
bigger)

[..]
> If you mean the process by which provider-independent (PI) space is
> assigned, then as I understand it this REQUIRES an LIR to make the
> request on your behalf. I assume that the RIPE NCC reviews each request,
> the same as they would any address request.
> 
> To be honest, I don't really understand what the LIR role in this whole
> process is, other than maybe companies prefer to work with a local
> company that speaks their language, is in their time zone, and
> understands their business environment. 

This is the whole point.  There might be a business relation with a local
LIR already, and that's way easier for "smallish companies" than to do 
international contracts with Amstedam.

You *can* get the PI space from the RIPE NCC directly (nowadays) by becoming 
a so-called "direct access user" - but this is more expensive, and more
paperwork.

Gert Doering
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