[anti-abuse-wg] Re: Use of RIPE region space by out-of-region users, was RIPE policy
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Suresh Ramasubramanian
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Wed Mar 9 14:48:29 CET 2011
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Shane Kerr <shane at time-travellers.org> wrote: > Looks like it's going out of New York. If you look at the last couple > hops, we see: Yes. > CustName: UNIVERSAL WEB DESIGN > Address: 320 7th Ave, Suite 134 > City: Brooklyn Which happens to be a UPS store in Brooklyn .. http://www.theupsstorelocal.com/3678/ > I realize you're not an expert, but there may be some training available > from someone if you do want to become an expert in these things. I think > most of the RIRs have courses that they give to law enforcement > officials to help figure out the dispositions of various address blocks. > Maybe one of them would be willing to make some slide decks public? Let us put it this way, Shane - what Ron dug up does have a certain piscine odor about it. There's clearly a process hole that is causing large netblocks to be allocated - mostly - as "vpn ranges", "dsl pools" etc and then repurposed for bulk mail. It could be a lack of accuracy in whois It could be a window of opportunity that exists in the LIR process that is vulnerable to abuse It could be a disconnect between the RIPE anti abuse community and more mainstream / large SP antispam [and all due respect to RFG, he isn't wired into that scene either] Could be a combination of all those, and more. 1. This needs fixing - either tightening policies or their enforcement 2. This needs people who highlight problems Ron is doing a decent job at #2, and we're all straying far afield from #1 --srs
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