AW: [anti-abuse-wg] how to detect spambots - SPAMTrusted

On Wednesday 11 March 2009 15.44, Sascha Wilms wrote:
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> Hi Ian, hi guys,
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> we actually enforce rules regarding bulk emails through the Certified Senders Alliance. Enforcement can naturally be applied only to those senders participating in the CSA - however, in Germany our service has become the de facto industry standard for email marketers, and the amount of emails sent by certified senders is huge. Thus, we have gained a very good leverage over this industry.
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> we at eco maintain a general complaints hotline, and I can't remember having seen any complaint by users or ISPs about a missing opt-out link only. Complaints are about UCEs, and not missing opt-out possibilities. So I guess we are pretty much the only body dealing with the enforcement of those rules like opt-out links, and we have effective sanctions for not sticking to the rules (and opt-out is definitely one of those rules!). 
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> Actually, our set of rules goes beyond the stipulations made by the EU directive. And we keep on tightening the rules: SPF has now become mandatory for senders (ISPs are left with the choice whether to use this info); DKIM and double-opt-in, for example, are now recommended criteria and will be turned into mandatory criteria with the next revision of the admission criteria. 
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> We consider this industry standard approach more efficient than any legislative approach. 
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> Rgds
> Sascha

If germany is so good at stopping spam, how come that providers like schlund is
still out-of-jail ? ( i have more examples of spam originating in germany)




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