Re: [regional-russia] CS-2010 & 'Not my End User'

[Sergey Budnevitch fabler@localhost]

Приветствую.

   Ответ Arne Kiessling из RIPE NCC, если кого-то еще интересует:

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I failed to find any documents on your site except ripe-452, but

ripe-452 describe cease of contractual relationship and there is no

contract between end user and LIR right now.  I am actually not 'end

user' but a LIR representative and probably have to inform our

ex-end user about this ripe policy change and my question will be

first question they ask me.

- The RIPE NCC recently published a procedure document describing the
 process for this: ripe-475, "Independent Internet Number Resources -
 Contractual Relationship Changes between sponsoring LIR and End
 User" which is available here:

http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-475.html

The question was: what exactly end user with PI address space and/or  

AS have to do when LIR

choose 'Not my End User' in 'Independent Resources - Contractual  

Relationship'  form. Is

there any complete instruction on RIPE site or end user should write  

letter to someone in RIPE

or somebody in RIPE will contact end user in near future?

- The future sponsoring LIR can request to have the resources in
 question moved to their registry by sending an email to
 

. They need to provide the following
 documents:

- End User Assignment Agreement between the LIR and their end user
 regarding the registration of the resources which complies with the
 requirements described in ripe-452, "Contractual Requirements for
 Provider Independent Resource Holders in the RIPE NCC Service
 Region"

- official Company Registration Documents of the end user’s
 organisation

If the end user can not find a sponsoring LIR for the resources they
hold the RIPE NCC will contact the end user directly in the future.

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И дополнение в ответ на просьбу процитировать письмо в рассылке:

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If you could also mention that end users with independent resources
have the following options:

- sign an End User Assignment Agreement with a sponsoring LIR of their
 choice (this does not mean end users have to sign a contract for
 connectivity or other services with the sponsoring LIR)

- become Direct Assignment User and sign an End User Assignment
 Agreement directly with the RIPE NCC

- become LIR

- renumber their network and return the resources

For those who attend the RIPE Regional Meeting in Moscow this week, we
will also have a Services Center and be able to answer your questions
there.

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On 02.09.2009, at 17:25, Sergey Budnevitch wrote:

Приветствую.

  Коллеги, подскажите где на сайте ripe'а найти последовательность действий
end user'а в случае, если LIR для ASN и PI блока адресов пользователя выбрал
вариант 'Not my End User', а ресурсы эти действительно используются?
В ripe-452 есть фраза "If the End User wishes to cease their current contractual
relationship, they must first have a new contractual relationship in place with either
another sponsoring LIR or else with the RIPE NCC.  In either case, such contractual
changes must be communicated to the RIPE NCC each time they occur."
В нашем случае 'contractual relationship' отсутствует, пользователю
остается писать на деревню дедушке в RIPE или есть более детальное
описание процедуры заключения прямого договора с RIPE NCC?