Re: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Peering
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From: Timo Liuska <>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:36:15 +0300
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Cc: Kais Al-Essa <>,"Osama Dosary ((dosary))" <>
Hi again,
My answer wasn't particularly clear, thanks for correcting Mr. Osama. My earlier response was about the plans for national IX here in KSA. STC has indeed the MEIX -project, but at least so far they haven't been able to provide enough capacity there to make it useful, so at least ISU is not peering over that link currently at all.
Best regards, Timo
-- Senior Network Consultant, Nixu Middle East FZ-LLC Network Operations Center / Internet Services Unit King Abdulaziz City for Science & Technology On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:15 , Osama Dosary ((dosary)) wrote: Hello, I used to work in the Internet arm of STC, and as far as I know STC doesn't have any plans to peer with gulf ISPs. They have already setup what they call "Saudi Internet Exchange", but they are really selling transit traffic to the middle-east. I believe that most of the gulf is now connected. With regards to CITC, their plans don't include Gulf peering, especially when that means that the content control for Saudi Arabia will be bypassed. Since the ISU function (as an International Gateway for Saudi) has now been integrated into STC, the doors are now open for the two new competitors to do International peering (ITC and Bayanat,) so they could potentially peer with the gulf. Does that answer your question? Regards, Osama I. Al-Dosary Hi,
There has been indeed discussions about building a local internet exchange ever since the local ISP's could select where to get their international capacity (around last Ramadan). Before that, KACST/ISU was effectively acting as an internet exchange in Riyadh and Jeddah. As far as I know, CITC is one of the key parties in the decision process who is going to build it and when. So far I haven't seen any final decisions about it, but hopefully they'll get the decision done quickly.
Best regards, Timo
-- Senior Network Consultant, Nixu Middle East FZ-LLC Network Operations Center / Internet Services Unit King Abdulaziz City for Science & Technology
On Jul 26, 2007, at 21:26 , Kais Al-Essa wrote: Hello all,
It was interesting to attend the 1st MENOG meeting in Bahrain. I'm looking forward to such annual meetings. One of the interesting topics for me as an ISP Technical Manager is Peering Points.
During the meeting, I didn't see any single initiative about a peering project in the Gulf. However, I've heared about some attempts or projects, but was unable to get anything solid.
Therefore, I'm sending this e-mail to the group in order to enquire if anyone knows for sure about any peering activities between Gulf Countries for Internet traffic and if there is anything going on with Saudi Arabia in particular. I personally heared that STC is working on something soon, but again, nothing was solid and I was unable to obtain clear information.
Regards..
Kais Al-Essa, Founder and Operations & Technical Services Manager Sahara Net _______________________________________________________________________ <image001.jpg>
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