RE: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Regional Peering

["Fahad AlShirawi" Fahad@localhost]

Title: RE: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Regional Peering

Gentlemen, why don’t we allow transit peering and work on a settlement basis for the time being at least? If EMIX is connected with Oman and Qatar… Follow the thought.

 

 

Fahad.

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Malik Awan [mailto:mawan@localhost]
Sent: 27 May 2006 12:19
To: 'Salim Bader Al Mazrui'; 'John Leong'; 'Salman Al-Mannai'; 'Fahad AlShirawi'; 'Saleem Albalooshi'
Cc: ncc-regional-middle-east@localhost MAJEED@localhost
Subject: RE: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Regional Peering

 

Dear Salim,

Thanks for your update, and a very good news.  Your customers must be enjoying the benefits of peering with UAE (tracert sent by Moeen Aqrabawi):

 

> C:\>tracert www.omantel.co.om

>

> Tracing route to om26.omantel.net.om [212.72.23.29]

> over a maximum of 30 hops:

>

>   1     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  192.168.1.1

>   2    33 ms    22 ms    24 ms  195.229.244.25

>   3    42 ms    22 ms    37 ms  195.229.244.195

>   4    46 ms    23 ms    22 ms  195.229.244.121

>   5    39 ms    22 ms    22 ms  194.170.0.138

>   6    43 ms    23 ms    23 ms  195.229.0.241

>   7    38 ms    22 ms    22 ms  195.229.31.76

>   8    42 ms    35 ms    37 ms  195.229.28.70 <EMIX>

>   9    50 ms    33 ms    34 ms  82.178.32.22

>  10    53 ms    32 ms    34 ms  62.231.254.142

>  11    62 ms    38 ms    48 ms  om26.omantel.net.om [212.72.23.29]

>

> Trace complete.

 

 

Hope Oman will soon have similar direct peering with Qatar and other regional countries.  Below is a tracert from Qatar to Oman (the latency is reaching upto 700ms.)

 

C:\>tracert www.omantel.co.om

 

Tracing route to om26.omantel.net.om [212.72.23.29]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

 

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1

  2    16 ms    16 ms    15 ms  213.130.127.166

  3    15 ms    16 ms    15 ms  213.130.114.25

  4    17 ms    17 ms    16 ms  82.148.96.186

  5    16 ms    20 ms    17 ms  82.148.96.202

  6    19 ms    16 ms    16 ms  82.148.97.66

  7   251 ms   251 ms   250 ms  12.119.94.77

  8   251 ms   251 ms   250 ms  12.123.33.62

  9   254 ms   252 ms   252 ms  tbr1-cl1474.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.12.121]

 10   251 ms   249 ms   249 ms  12.123.20.201

 11   240 ms   242 ms   239 ms  dcr1-so-4-0-0.atlanta.savvis.net [192.205.32.118]

 12   240 ms   242 ms   243 ms  bcs1-so-2-0-0.Washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.54]

 13   247 ms   241 ms   240 ms  bcs1-so-4-0-0.NewYork.savvis.net [204.70.192.6]

 14   240 ms   241 ms   240 ms  bcs2-so-6-0-0.NewYork.savvis.net [204.70.192.38]

 15   244 ms   243 ms   245 ms  bcs1-so-0-0-0.Londonlnx.savvis.net [204.70.192.122]

 16   243 ms   240 ms   241 ms  bcs2-as0-0.Londonlnx.savvis.net [204.70.193.202]

 17   240 ms   241 ms   240 ms  bcr1-so-1-0-0.Londonlnx.savvis.net [204.70.193.121]

 18   242 ms   242 ms   241 ms  beyond-the-network.Londonlnx.savvis.net [206.24.169.10]

 19   528 ms   525 ms   527 ms  omantel.pos3-2.ar03.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.13.134]

 20   536 ms   528 ms   534 ms  82.178.32.21

 21   614 ms   606 ms   633 ms  62.231.254.130

 22   700 ms   685 ms   663 ms  om26.omantel.net.om [212.72.23.29]

 

Trace complete.

 

Regards,

 

Malik

 

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From: Salim Bader Al Mazrui [mailto:salim@localhost]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:55 PM
To: John Leong; mawan@localhost Salman Al-Mannai; Fahad AlShirawi; Saleem Albalooshi
Cc: ncc-regional-middle-east@localhost MAJEED@localhost
Subject: RE: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Regional Peering

 

Dear colleagues;

I have been following up on the discussions going on and I wanted to inform you'll that Omantel has established peering with Etisalat on Wednesday 24th May using 5 x E1 links. We are only announcing our local networks to each other. In the business sector, many establishments communicate with their regional offices in the middle east over the Internet.  We are presently seeing over 4 Mbps traffic after establishing the peer.

Regards

Salim Bader Al-Mazrui
Director Informatics Unit
Networks & Technology
Oman Telecommunications Company

Tel: +968-631881
Fax: +968-695482
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-----Original Message-----
From: ncc-regional-middle-east-admin@localhost on behalf of John Leong
Sent: Fri 5/26/2006 8:27 PM
To: mawan@localhost 'Salman Al-Mannai'; 'Fahad AlShirawi'; 'Saleem Albalooshi'
; MAJEED@localhost
Subject: Re: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Regional Peering

Re: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Regional PeeringInteresting point from Malik.  VoIP. 

My initial feeling is even if the routing between GCC countries through US is totally inefficient from engineering point of view, but if most of the data IP traffic is really not between the GCC country, we may not care. 

However, if VoIP is to be a significant service, then I suspect there may be a lot of VoIP traffic between GCC countries. 

In which case, one may pay attention to ITU recommendation G.114 on One-way Transmission Time (note: not round trip) and its effect on voice services.  It suggests to keep the one way latency to under 150 ms.  150 - 400 ms is acceptable depending on application.  Anything above 400 ms is not acceptable.

Regards,
John


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Malik Awan
  To: 'Salman Al-Mannai' ; 'Fahad AlShirawi' ; 'Saleem Albalooshi'
  Cc: 'John Leong' ; ncc-regional-middle-east@localhost ; MAJEED@localhost
  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:03 PM
  Subject: RE: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Regional Peering


  So far we have seen latency of up to 600ms (900ms not seen yet) within the region, which is not good for VoIP traffic.

  

  Regards,

  

  Malik